ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 21 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: They probably got paid big bucks by companies to do this tbh Same reason why Republicans don’t want to pass stricter gun laws, the NRA is basically paying them to vote against the public’s interest The head of the FCC used to be a lawyer for Verizon. Ofc he cares more about their interests than the actual people Also, corruption and lobbying is essentially part of the Republican manifesto. For any legislation, ask this: Do the people want it or need it? The answer is always that it doesn't matter if they are being paid and endorsed and re-elected by super PACs. They will always side with these people. (This applies to Democrats sometimes too, but to a lesser extent afaik in raw numbers) Which is why until we do something about citizens united and all that ****, we'll be stuck in this cycle 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 So what are the plans for this if Congress passes it. There seems to be a lot of fear mongering without any actual plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Peters 10,776 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Balenciaga said: Is there any chance that this can be blocked in Congress? yes. the issue is that congress is repub majority. emma roberts is an abuser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, Venusfly said: Streaming is very huge of course, but there is a giant giant jump between 1080p streaming and 4k streaming, current infrastructure definitely can't handle 4k becoming a mainstream thing; ISPs can definitely afford with their own billions to upgrade infrastructure though, however that would upset shareholders and they'd rather pass those costs to the consumer. In 2015, streaming video alone accounted for 70 percent of broadband usage. Does anyone have more up-to-date figures on this? https://www.recode.net/2015/12/7/11621218/streaming-video-now-accounts-for-70-percent-of-broadband-usage Do you have any statistic that shows ISP investment in infrastructure capital increased under the three years of net neutrality? I agree with you all that net neutrality makes common sense, but I haven't seen data to back it up. I also want to point out that under net neutrality, we've seen a huge increase in content delivery networks (CDNs), which is internet broadband infrastructure owned by big corporations like Facebook, Youtube, Netflix, etc. themselves. In 2016, "nearly half of all traffic flowing over the internet today actually traverses these parallel routes, according to data from research firm TeleGeography." That doesn't seem good for small Internet businesses, idk how net neutrality repeal/rules would help though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Aura 5,129 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Does this affect countries outside the US as well? Stupid question ik but I really wanna know. Because alot of websites ARE American based isn't it? How does this internet thing work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, MJHolland said: In 2015, streaming video alone accounted for 70 percent of broadband usage. Does anyone have more up-to-date figures on this? https://www.recode.net/2015/12/7/11621218/streaming-video-now-accounts-for-70-percent-of-broadband-usage Do you have any statistic that shows ISP investment in infrastructure capital increased under the three years of net neutrality? I agree with you all that net neutrality makes common sense, but I haven't seen data to back it up. I also want to point out that under net neutrality, we've seen a huge increase in content delivery networks (CDNs), which is internet broadband infrastructure owned by big corporations like Facebook, Youtube, Netflix, etc. themselves. In 2016, "nearly half of all traffic flowing over the internet today actually traverses these parallel routes, according to data from research firm TeleGeography." That doesn't seem good for small Internet businesses, idk how net neutrality repeal/rules would help though. I'm a little confused with the point that you're trying to make? If I understand right you're trying to say that streaming was already popular? I understand that it was, but this is 1080p HD streaming we're talking here. Old style broadband can easily support 1080p video streaming, you can achieve this through as little as 10mb/s bandwidth, however 4k video is the new HD standard that is coming into play now and you can forget trying to access that through a 10mb/s connection, you're going to need somewhere around the likes of 100mb/s to even consider streaming in 4k. ISPs have to spend millions and millions of dollars to be able to make sure that they can upgrade their infrastructure to support stuff like this. I'm not sure about any efforts they've made to do so, I just know from experience in computing this is something they'll need to be doing very soon and is a big reason they're looking to get rid of neutrality. ISPs want rid of this regulation because things are about to get expensive and they dont want to take on the costs themselves, I know on a practical scale this makes sense but its at the burden of the US population, ISPs can easily afford to cover the cost without sectioning off the internet to pay for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, ZacharyMark said: So what are the plans for this if Congress passes it. There seems to be a lot of fear mongering without any actual plan. What do you mean plan? There doesn't need to be one. "Net Neutrality" is just a codename for regulations on ISPs, once the regulations go away the ISPs decide what they want to do with their newfound powers, there's no government intervention from there. We don't know yet what ISPs will do with the power but its assumed that they will use it to section off more costly types of data such as video and make you pay extra to access it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeenIdle 135,112 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Very often I question myself wether American politicians are sane or not More proof they're not currently overstimulated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 53,665 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Bitch, what the f*ck. I legit don’t see what good could come out of repealing this. Just republicans trying their best to undo every and anything Obama has done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 127,561 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I guess my American dream has ended So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabuIesque 1,065 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 i ****ing hate armpits pie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epione 10,896 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 God bless European Union. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imwoahvicky 4,248 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 17 minutes ago, Epione said: God bless European Union. you know Europe is gonna be next according to what experts said right? ⚜ Roll Deep ⚜ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,140 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 31 minutes ago, TeenIdle said: Very often I question myself wether American politicians are sane or not More proof they're not They’re perfectly sane. They’re just greedy pigs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggsy 8,280 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, gag said: But both parties are the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 Both parties are not the same O_O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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