FCC repeals Net Neutrality

[ALGAYDO 35,230]

Lmao nice. I just love it when Republicans make life harder for everyone except the rich 

[AmericanGUY 4,609]

Just now, pink sushi said:

You guys are always so damn DRAMATIC.   CALM DOWN.

You all are acting like the internet is gonna start costing like $300 a month now and very few people will have access to it. That WON'T happen.  The internet has become SO engrained into our society now that nobody would make it that unattainable for the general population. People depend on it for pretty much EVERYTHING. And big companies like Comcast are taking a stand against it. So RELAX....

part of me thinks comcast/big companies are truly against it and part of me thinks they're just telling us what we want to hear

[Sizzily 14,571]

I'm sure not paying to come to this hell site  

[littlepotter 76,620]

lmfao i'm pretty sure most of the people commenting on this thread don't even live in the US. misinformation is widespread i c

[Miel 15,009]

3 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

So I support net neutrality and all, but one thing I'm confused about is the fact that we didn't even have it until 2014. Can someone explain why this rule repeal will make it worse than pre-2014 US internet?  

I don't think it's necessarily gonna be worse per se, but more that it's just a step backwards in the wrong direction, whereas we were in the right direction.

Although, to take it a step further, people are already paranoid about this administration's relatively egregious attempts to silence free speech and accessibility.

[Miel 15,009]

3 minutes ago, pink sushi said:

You guys are always so damn DRAMATIC.   CALM DOWN.

You all are acting like the internet is gonna start costing like $300 a month now and very few people will have access to it. That WON'T happen.  The internet has become SO engrained into our society now that nobody would make it that unattainable for the general population. People depend on it for pretty much EVERYTHING. And big companies like Comcast are taking a stand against it. So RELAX....

On one hand, I'm optimistic that this is only going to go as far as internet regulations were a few years back, as @MJHolland mentioned.

But, I feel like a lot of people are just really cynical about this administration overall. It's like they're making everything from a minor inconvenience into a major detriment for a majority of Americans.

[littlepotter 76,620]

7 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

So I support net neutrality and all, but one thing I'm confused about is the fact that we didn't even have it until 2014. Can someone explain why this rule repeal will make it worse than pre-2014 US internet?  

lmao ofc they can't they only saw tweets about how it's gonna destroy their lives

[venusfly 17,885]

8 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

So I support net neutrality and all, but one thing I'm confused about is the fact that we didn't even have it until 2014. Can someone explain why this rule repeal will make it worse than pre-2014 US internet?  

ISPs reaction to the regulation is the most concerning part; there wasn’t slight unhappiness on their behalf they all spent a combined $100,000,000 to lobby politicians to get rid of the regulations again, the internet is more vast now than it was a handful of years ago, stuff like 4K streaming and virtual reality and self driving cars etc weren’t as much of a thing in 2014 - these things cost ISPs a lot more money to support than traditional internet traffic and they’re looking to finally recoup the costs.

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5 minutes ago, hunty said:

lmfao i'm pretty sure most of the people commenting on this thread don't even live in the US. misinformation is widespread i c

this can have impact in more than just the US  a lot of my money comes from america and if less people end up using the internet because it's too expensive, my american market (my top market) will shrink  

[NewYorkCity 10,536]

LOL are they crazy or what? I mean, this makes no sense at all. Can someone please tell me what are their arguments to support this? Cuz I don’t get it. I for sure won’t agree but it is just that I am curious to know what mental process leads them to decide this  

[littlepotter 76,620]

Just now, ryanripley said:

this can have impact in more than just the US  a lot of my money comes from america and if less people end up using the internet because it's too expensive, my american market (my top market) will shrink  

i'm pretty they won't block access to art-selling sites

[PaperIz 7,354]

I hope Trump voters are happy!!!

[ryanripley 86,575]

1 minute ago, hunty said:

i'm pretty they won't block access to art-selling sites

how can you know that  they have total control now, if they see they can sell a package that includes ebay/etsy/S6 and make some money, they will  

plus, where do you think i advertise?  

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14 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

So I support net neutrality and all, but one thing I'm confused about is the fact that we didn't even have it until 2014. Can someone explain why this rule repeal will make it worse than pre-2014 US internet?  

What VenusFly said, also there are arguments that net neutrality wasn't necessary until ISPs increased their efforts to profit. This is from an article on freepress which reads a bit sensationalist but it generally outlines the history of abuse:

Spoiler

MADISON RIVER: In 2005, North Carolina ISP Madison River Communications blocked the voice-over-internet protocol (VOIP) service Vonage. Vonage filed a complaint with the FCC after receiving a slew of customer complaints. The FCC stepped in to sanction Madison River and prevent further blocking, but it lacks the authority to stop this kind of abuse today.

COMCAST: In 2005, the nation’s largest ISP, Comcast, began secretly blocking peer-to-peer technologies that its customers were using over its network. Users of services like BitTorrent and Gnutella were unable to connect to these services. 2007 investigations from the Associated Press, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and others confirmed that Comcast was indeed blocking or slowing file-sharing applications without disclosing this fact to its customers.

TELUS: In 2005, Canada’s second-largest telecommunications company, Telus, began blocking access to a server that hosted a website supporting a labor strike against the company. Researchers at Harvard and the University of Toronto found that this action resulted in Telus blocking an additional 766 unrelated sites.

AT&T: From 2007–2009, AT&T forced Apple to block Skype and other competing VOIP phone services on the iPhone. The wireless provider wanted to prevent iPhone users from using any application that would allow them to make calls on such “over-the-top” voice services. The Google Voice app received similar treatment from carriers like AT&T when it came on the scene in 2009.

WINDSTREAM: In 2010, Windstream Communications, a DSL provider with more than 1 million customers at the time, copped to hijacking user-search queries made using the Google toolbar within Firefox. Users who believed they had set the browser to the search engine of their choice were redirected to Windstream’s own search portal and results.

MetroPCS: In 2011, MetroPCS, at the time one of the top-five U.S. wireless carriers, announced plans to block streaming video over its 4G network from all sources except YouTube. MetroPCS then threw its weight behind Verizon’s court challenge against the FCC’s 2010 open internet ruling, hoping that rejection of the agency’s authority would allow the company to continue its anti-consumer practices.

PAXFIRE: In 2011, the Electronic Frontier Foundation found that several small ISPs were redirecting search queries via the vendor Paxfire. The ISPs identified in the initial Electronic Frontier Foundation report included Cavalier, Cogent, Frontier, Fuse, DirecPC, RCN and Wide Open West. Paxfire would intercept a person’s search request at Bing and Yahoo and redirect it to another page. By skipping over the search service’s results, the participating ISPs would collect referral fees for delivering users to select websites.

AT&T, SPRINT and VERIZON: From 2011–2013, AT&T, Sprint and Verizon blocked Google Wallet, a mobile-payment system that competed with a similar service called Isis, which all three companies had a stake in developing.

EUROPE: A 2012 report from the Body of European Regulators for Electronic Communications found that violations of Net Neutrality affected at least one in five users in Europe. The report found that blocked or slowed connections to services like VOIP, peer-to-peer technologies, gaming applications and email were commonplace.

VERIZON: In 2012, the FCC caught Verizon Wireless blocking people from using tethering applications on their phones. Verizon had asked Google to remove 11 free tethering applications from the Android marketplace. These applications allowed users to circumvent Verizon’s $20 tethering fee and turn their smartphones into Wi-Fi hot spots. By blocking those applications, Verizon violated a Net Neutrality pledge it made to the FCC as a condition of the 2008 airwaves auction.

AT&T: In 2012, AT&T announced that it would disable the FaceTime video-calling app on its customers’ iPhones unless they subscribed to a more expensive text-and-voice plan. AT&T had one goal in mind: separating customers from more of their money by blocking alternatives to AT&T’s own products.

VERIZON: During oral arguments in Verizon v. FCC in 2013, judges asked whether the phone giant would favor some preferred services, content or sites over others if the court overruled the agency’s existing open internet rules. Verizon counsel Helgi Walker had this to say: “I’m authorized to state from my client today that but for these rules we would be exploring those types of arrangements.” Walker’s admission might have gone unnoticed had she not repeated it on at least five separate occasions during arguments.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast_Corp._v._FCC

Article here with source links: https://www.freepress.net/blog/2017/04/25/net-neutrality-violations-brief-history

Either way, there's literally no strong argument against net neutrality.

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27 minutes ago, bostonGUY said:

I'm not paying for any of the bullscheiße to come so once it rolls out I'm saying sayonara to the Internet

its been fun

Do you live in the USA?