derpmonster 22,412 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, ezrajones said: Using "conservative" as a prejorative to describe everything that you think is bad is smallminded and ignorant. No, Arab Muslims protesting Jews in Israel is not "conservative" by any reasonable stretch of the imagination. It's zealotry and religious bigotry. Which comes from any and all directions, despite what "liberals" like to admit of themselves. I do not use conservative as a general pejorative. The word is quite literally defined as unwilling to accept change and wanting to keep status quo. In social progress, people who oppose it are by definition conservative. And these people tend to be religious zealots and bigots. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, ezrajones said: That's ignorant as hell. I'm as far-right as you can get and in no way have I ever heard anyone support Arab Muslims in their intifada's against various groups of the world. No conservatives in the West support those people and it's ignorant to pretend they do. Linda Sarsour (the Women's March jihadist) is a trans-affirming, Muslim, safe-space liberal and she supports the Palestinian intifada. In America, we have groups on our university campuses that are all Palestinians and Muslims "against Israeli occupation" and "zionism of Jews". These groups are ALWAYS protesting the conservative groups on campus. It's more than "right and left" as you're trying to put it. omg Linda Sarsour is the worst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, ezrajones said: That's ignorant as hell. I'm as far-right as you can get and in no way have I ever heard anyone support Arab Muslims in their intifada's against various groups of the world. No conservatives in the West support those people and it's ignorant to pretend they do. Linda Sarsour (the Women's March jihadist) is a trans-affirming, Muslim, safe-space liberal and she supports the Palestinian intifada. In America, we have groups on our university campuses that are all Palestinians and Muslims "against Israeli occupation" and "zionism of Jews". These groups are ALWAYS protesting the conservative groups on campus. It's more than "right and left" as you're trying to put it. Again, western political axes don’t have to correlate with other countries’. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic 20,830 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I thought Trump was supposed to be a Nazi, huh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naor Daniel 937 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 These are Muslim immigrants, not conservatives! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,563 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Crazy, I wouldn’t expect something like this in Sweden Just goes to show how naive I really am, I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naor Daniel 937 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, ALGAYDO said: Crazy, I wouldn’t expect something like this in Sweden Just goes to show how naive I really am, I guess They are the same in every country they are at. To be naive is not to acknowledge that. Swedish people have nothing to do with this incident. in London the protestors (including Bella Hadid) chanted to kill the Jews and none of them were really British. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocaine Heart 4,768 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, Naor Daniel said: These are Muslim immigrants, not conservatives! The open Islamophobia is really over done at this point with you 1 minute ago, Naor Daniel said: They are the same in every country they are at. To be naive is not to acknowledge that. Swedish people have nothing to do with this incident. in London the protestors (including Bella Hadid) chanted to kill the Jews and none of them were really British. Who is they ? The Muslims ? Yes accidents like this happen at a very small scale. It does not happen like this in every country. No she wasn't And Intifada is the Arabic-language word for Shake or Tremor not violent uprising. We going to boo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 6,070 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Better change the title to Arab protesters in Sweden: We will shoot Jews or something. This literally made me think it was actual swedes saying this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naor Daniel 937 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Cocaine Heart said: The open Islamophobia is really over done at this point with you Who is they ? The Muslims ? Yes accidents like this happen at a very small scale. It does not happen like this in every country. No she wasn't And Intifada is the Arabic-language word for Shake or Tremor not violent uprising. The second Intifada killed more than 1,000 Israelis in suicide bombings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 15 hours ago, Cocaine Heart said: The open Islamophobia is really over done at this point with you Who is they ? The Muslims ? Yes accidents like this happen at a very small scale. It does not happen like this in every country. No she wasn't And Intifada is the Arabic-language word for Shake or Tremor not violent uprising. Funny how you don't have anything to say about the topic itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezrajones 587 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 12:42 PM, derpmonster said: I do not use conservative as a general pejorative. The word is quite literally defined as unwilling to accept change and wanting to keep status quo. In social progress, people who oppose it are by definition conservative. And these people tend to be religious zealots and bigots. No, progress is not a term for "the good people". You can progress into a ditch or a dictatorship. You can change from healthy into unhealthy. Those words (Dear Leader Hussein Obama peace be upon him) have no intrinsic meaning of righteousness. Conservative means defending your country as much as opposition to change (bad change). Conservative means defending your history, heritage, people and family from those who wish to do you harm, exploit you and erase it. You can choose to interpret that as nothing but bad, but again, that's your own small-mindedness and ignorance. Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezrajones 587 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 1:13 PM, Chic said: I thought Trump was supposed to be a Nazi, huh If you watch the DNC-agitprop newscasts (CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, PBS, ESPN, MTV, E!, OWN, BET etc etc etc.) you might start to believe that. Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,854 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 time to throw them out of the EU or in prison.... if they can't adjust themselves to "Western" society and live together with people of all walks of life...the scum should go back to where they can spout their hatred more or less....the middle east Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 hours ago, ezrajones said: No, progress is not a term for "the good people". You can progress into a ditch or a dictatorship. You can change from healthy into unhealthy. Those words (Dear Leader Hussein Obama peace be upon him) have no intrinsic meaning of righteousness. Conservative means defending your country as much as opposition to change (bad change). Conservative means defending your history, heritage, people and family from those who wish to do you harm, exploit you and erase it. You can choose to interpret that as nothing but bad, but again, that's your own small-mindedness and ignorance. Progress implies forward motion. Your interpretation is clearly different but in common jargon, forward vs backward have moral and righteous values assigned to them. Again, you're going against your own thought process when you qualify change that conservatives are against as bad. No, the word itself only means resistance to any change, not to bad change. Protecting heritage, yes. I am not claiming conservative is only bad; you're reading that into my post. And sorry protecting your country has nothing to do with conservative. Patriotism is not an exclusively conservative value. Your attempt to map everything into a left and right axis shows your "small mindedness." I should have stopped responding when you implied a Muslim or terrorist connection with Obama, an unfounded belief and something that has nothing to do with this post, which shows your ignorance. I do not excuse these people at all for their horrible beliefs and threats to groups of people but to run around and say they're not conservative is just paranoid. They are staunchly nationalistic, religious, and fundamentalist. All extreme right traits. It's not ordinarily conservative. Being that is fine. It's conservative on steroids. Also chill, no one is saying they're American or Western conservatives. The two groups hate each other. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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