Regina George 59,387 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 From this: to this? G U R L.. what do you think you’re doing? what do you thing you’re doing, doing gurl? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopThatArt 2,193 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Why are you posting a video from 2014 though? Go see A Star is Born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 30 minutes ago, ReginaGeorge said: From this: to this? G U R L.. what do you think you’re doing? what do you thing you’re doing, doing gurl? Evolution at its finest End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Why does he look like that now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 6 hours ago, Craig Barnes said: On his offical website there is this: He was 22 when No No No happened. That ties up with what I said earlier But, you know, Billboard has his birth records Or he is lying about his age, which wouldn't be far-fetched. Since he decided to try to be an artist, instead of a songwriter, it would have been advantageous to shave ten years off your reported age. There are numerous articles that place his age in the same range as Billboard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 11 hours ago, Robin F said: As a lawyer who does some entertainment work, I've read most of the pleadings in the case between Rob Fusari and Lady Gaga, along with the case between Wendy Starland and Rob where Gaga came in as a third party. In those cases, the three of them all pretty much confirm the same timeline of her being 20 when she is introduced to Rob, and they also acknowledge her dating him for a few months (he admits to hooking up with Wendy too but disagrees with Wendy's claim that he was still engaged at the time, FWIW). I've heard that she has said she was 19 when she was assaulted, and if that's true, the lawsuit timeline basically rules him out. Anyway, in the deposition transcripts Lady Gaga makes some disparaging remarks about Rob, and Rob ends up countersuing Wendy. In the countersuit, he claimed that Wendy's remarks in the "Poker Face" book caused him to lose at least one client (a young girl whose father was upset because Wendy's comments about his relationship with Gaga suggests that he's a pervert). So yes, I think there was (and possibly still is) some bad blood between them all, but I also think it has a lot to do with the legal cases, along with everything leading up to the cases, and nothing to do with Fusari assaulting anyone. At least I hope not, because as much as he sounds like kind of a jerk, I do like the songs they made together. Didnt Rob also countersue or request a retrial because the words she used against him during her deposition or testominy swayed the jury against him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Many believe he was the producer who abused her sexually at 19, but of course there is no evidence, just accusations. While they wrote great songs together, I don't get positive vibes from him -- even seems like someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder or something like that, it seems like he likes to manipulate people. But of course, I can't know for sure... Anyway, I'm glad she doesn't work with him together anymore. To me he seems fake and therefore not worth working with ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 31 minutes ago, Whispering said: Or he is lying about his age, which wouldn't be far-fetched. Since he decided to try to be an artist, instead of a songwriter, it would have been advantageous to shave ten years off your reported age. There are numerous articles that place his age in the same range as Billboard. Well maybe BB got it wrong💁 Lets be real here, nobody knows his age End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkSpectre 114 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 8 hours ago, Craig Barnes said: On his offical website there is this: He was 22 when No No No happened. That ties up with what I said earlier But, you know, Billboard has his birth records That snippet doesn’t read like he was 22 when no no no happened though? It says he started writing songs and 22. New sentence says he started recording his own tracks and eventually worked with Irwin Levine and Vincent Herbert, it just doesn’t state the age when that happened but it definitely doesn’t read that it happened at 22 so I wouldn’t use that as a timeline for his age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, SilkSpectre said: That snippet doesn’t read like he was 22 when no no no happened though? It says he started writing songs and 22. New sentence says he started recording his own tracks and eventually worked with Irwin Levine and Vincent Herbert, it just doesn’t state the age when that happened but it definitely doesn’t read that it happened at 22 so I wouldn’t use that as a timeline for his age. "It was during this time, which he created his first #1 hit single, "No No No" which launched Destiny Child's career" I read that to be when he was 22 he wrote No No No End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkSpectre 114 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Craig Barnes said: "It was during this time, which he created his first #1 hit single, "No No No" which launched Destiny Child's career" I read that to be when he was 22 he wrote No No No I found another article that makes it clearer that he met Irwin and they wrote together for two years, then he met another song writer who he wrote with for 3 years all before no no no. If he only started writing songs at all at 22 it’s just not possible although I can’t find anything to confirm his exact age when no no no happened but it’s minimum 27 and that’s if all that progress happened very quickly after just beginning to write songs with no breaks in between all those steps. http://www.songwriteruniverse.com/fusari.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin F 15 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Katie14 said: Didnt Rob also countersue or request a retrial because the words she used against him during her deposition or testominy swayed the jury against him? Yes - Gaga didn't testify at the trial but Starland's attorneys read part of Gaga's deposition to the jury. The depositions included details about their "relationship" because Rob suggested that he agreed to take less than he was entitled to in her career development deal because of it, and Starland argued that was a breach of his duty to her as a business partner. In her deposition, Gaga basically painted a negative picture of him and made multiple comments that were helpful to Starland's case. Before (and during) trial, Rob's lawyers sought to exclude a lot of those comments on grounds that they were speculative, hearsay, overly prejudicial to him, and some violated the settlement agreement between Rob and Gaga, which has a confidentiality clause and a reciprocal non-disparagement clause. Some of those comments ended up coming in at trial anyway, leading to his motion for a new trial. The judge ultimately granted that request but the case settled before the new trial ever took place. The records had him being born in Feb. 1968, and Starland's lawyers used the age difference to their advantage by suggesting that she never got the initial 50/50 deal for Gaga in writing because of their power disparity - she was 25 at the time and trying to break into the industry herself, where Rob had a much greater ability to do things on his terms due to the age difference and his additional years of experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Robin F said: Yes - Gaga didn't testify at the trial but Starland's attorneys read part of Gaga's deposition to the jury. The depositions included details about their "relationship" because Rob suggested that he agreed to take less than he was entitled to in her career development deal because of it, and Starland argued that was a breach of his duty to her as a business partner. In her deposition, Gaga basically painted a negative picture of him and made multiple comments that were helpful to Starland's case. Before (and during) trial, Rob's lawyers sought to exclude a lot of those comments on grounds that they were speculative, hearsay, overly prejudicial to him, and some violated the settlement agreement between Rob and Gaga, which has a confidentiality clause and a reciprocal non-disparagement clause. Some of those comments ended up coming in at trial anyway, leading to his motion for a new trial. The judge ultimately granted that request but the case settled before the new trial ever took place. The records had him being born in Feb. 1968, and Starland's lawyers used the age difference to their advantage by suggesting that she never got the initial 50/50 deal for Gaga in writing because of their power disparity - she was 25 at the time and trying to break into the industry herself, where Rob had a much greater ability to do things on his terms due to the age difference and his additional years of experience. Interesting. I remember thinking Gaga's comments (which were blacked out) were about him being sexually abusive towards her. And then Gaga said in an interview her abuser "was still coming for me" years later, and I assumed she was referring to the lawsuits. I don't think we should all assume its him, but its sort of hard to look past all the evidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeshaErotica 1,682 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 58 minutes ago, Katie14 said: Interesting. I remember thinking Gaga's comments (which were blacked out) were about him being sexually abusive towards her. And then Gaga said in an interview her abuser "was still coming for me" years later, and I assumed she was referring to the lawsuits. I don't think we should all assume its him, but its sort of hard to look past all the evidence. I can't imagine it was Rob Fusari. He's gender nonconform and certainly not a monster, he has high respect for arts and artists. Rob Fusari helped Lady Gaga to become famous and without him there would not be this fansite, so people should be grateful for him. I'm looking gorgeous tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicaSkas 22,945 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 6:51 AM, modern ecstasy said: Based on conversations you’ve had with him? Obviously he would try to paint himself in a positive light. No rapist would outright say that they’ve done that, or at least most wouldn’t. True. I chose to believe him. I could be wrong. I could be being duped. But I spent time with him, listened to his story, and based on what he told me and showed me I believed him. I hope he isn't the one. It would be crushing to learn if he was, the same way I was crushed when I learned about Bill Cosby, or Charlie Rose (who was a HUGE personal journalistic inspiration to me) or all the other horrid offender stories we are hearing about nowadays. I still laugh at the Cosby Show. I still like watching Charlie Rose interviews, and I still love Fusari's work. I hate what they did, if they did it. That is horrific and disgusting, and they should be held accountable. But how can I still hate the art they made? That is the conundrum that troubles me, because I love the art. At some point I have to compartmentilize the art, which stands by itself, and the artist who made it. Do YOU own the 4' by 6' Perfect Illusion promo Poster? Will pay you for it. Pic: http://i.imgur.com/UWuzumk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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