LWYMMD falls out of the top 20 in Billboard

[StrawberryBlond 14,881]

I had no idea about that. I really thought her lead single would slay right up until the album's release. Her last 2 eras approached the album's release like a oncoming train, they were just undeniable forces. But I'm just not feeling that this era. She's taking such risks with this album and they're definitely not all paying off. I'm amazed that Ready For It has only got 1.6 million likes so far - I thought they would be pouring in like crazy, in keeping with the high amount of views its getting. Camila's Havana came out just 2 days before it and it has over 2.1 million likes and a lot more views into the bargain. And Camila only has 2 million subscribers compared to Taylor's 25 million, so I don't get this. And of course, Havana's doing so much better in America and worldwide, yet Ready For It is still only at #11 on US itunes. I know it had its time in the sun some while ago but still, she did better than this last era, so this is bizarre. After slaying with her first 2 singles last time, this is a fall down to earth for her.

And for anyone who asks why we're trying to make out like she's a flop - we're not. We're merely pointing out that she's struggling this era for longevity and overall interest. This is Taylor we're talking about, the same woman who had 3 #1 singles with her last album, the same woman who sold 1 million+ copies in the first week of her last 3 consecutive albums, the same woman who had sells out stadiums in million dollar tours, the same woman who has sold over 40 million albums and over 130 million singles. And she's done all this at the tender age of 27. So, pardon us if we hold her to a very high standard and find her chart decline fascinating. At the end of the day, the world is tough on popstars when they underperform, they get on their backs as soon as the #1's start to slip, even if they're still pulling in solid top tens. If you're not perfection in the pop world, you get torn down. Taylor's never had a truly flop era up until now and she always gets a free pass, so I think it's time the balance was redressed and we were just as harsh on her as we are when other big names start stumbling on the charts. It's only fair.

2 hours ago, KleinGa said:

 what constitutes a "real" #1 selling hit? 

They were referring to how streaming factors in for position now and because Gaga's streaming was never that high, she had to make do with #4 but it was proven that if streaming didn't count, she would have got #1. By that admission, some of us started to say that MR was a "real" #1 because it sold the most copies that week, which used to the most credible way to get a #1, now streaming, which is free, is factored in to artificially enhance sales, so it's not as credible as it used to be. Gaga just didn't stand a chance against the competition because the streaming rule gives a major advantage to the young, new, relevant artists and disadvantages the older ones whose fans don't favour streaming as highly and aren't hungry fangirls, basically.

[TheRoof 21,600]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I had no idea about that. I really thought her lead single would slay right up until the album's release. Her last 2 eras approached the album's release like a oncoming train, they were just undeniable forces. But I'm just not feeling that this era. She's taking such risks with this album and they're definitely not all paying off. I'm amazed that Ready For It has only got 1.6 million likes so far - I thought they would be pouring in like crazy, in keeping with the high amount of views its getting. Camila's Havana came out just 2 days before it and it has over 2.1 million likes and a lot more views into the bargain. And Camila only has 2 million subscribers compared to Taylor's 25 million, so I don't get this. And of course, Havana's doing so much better in America and worldwide, yet Ready For It is still only at #11 on US itunes. I know it had its time in the sun some while ago but still, she did better than this last era, so this is bizarre. After slaying with her first 2 singles last time, this is a fall down to earth for her.

And for anyone who asks why we're trying to make out like she's a flop - we're not. We're merely pointing out that she's struggling this era for longevity and overall interest. This is Taylor we're talking about, the same woman who had 3 #1 singles with her last album, the same woman who sold 1 million+ copies in the first week of her last 3 consecutive albums, the same woman who had sells out stadiums in million dollar tours, the same woman who has sold over 40 million albums and over 130 million singles. And she's done all this at the tender age of 27. So, pardon us if we hold her to a very high standard and find her chart decline fascinating. At the end of the day, the world is tough on popstars when they underperform, they get on their backs as soon as the #1's start to slip, even if they're still pulling in solid top tens. If you're not perfection in the pop world, you get torn down. Taylor's never had a truly flop era up until now and she always gets a free pass, so I think it's time the balance was redressed and we were just as harsh on her as we are when other big names start stumbling on the charts. It's only fair.

They were referring to how streaming factors in for position now and because Gaga's streaming was never that high, she had to make do with #4 but it was proven that if streaming didn't count, she would have got #1. By that admission, some of us started to say that MR was a "real" #1 because it sold the most copies that week, which used to the most credible way to get a #1, now streaming, which is free, is factored in to artificially enhance sales, so it's not as credible as it used to be. Gaga just didn't stand a chance against the competition because the streaming rule gives a major advantage to the young, new, relevant artists and disadvantages the older ones whose fans don't favour streaming as highly and aren't hungry fangirls, basically.

you always so clever in your post 

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,754]

11 hours ago, KleinGa said:

 what constitutes a "real" #1 selling hit? 

A #1 selling song dude, without streams. It peaked at #1 on the Digital Sales Chart. (Plus -by the way- why would the Hot 100 be the bible since the DSC counts sales and the Hot 100 counts views, streams, airplay and Twitter-talk?) Million Reasons is a #1 selling song, it's just a fact