Lizzie Jacobson 416 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Cutting our meats particularly beef would be the best way to cut greenhouse gas emissions but it’s just not realistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani Gaga 3,359 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Earthling said: I don't see anything wrong with factories making vegan convenience food if it makes going vegan more accessible and appealing to people. Not all processed vegan products are even that unhealthy, it depends from product to product. Some new lab made vegan foods could even help combat world hunger and reduce dependence on livestock. It does depend from product to product, yes. Still, I would rather eat something natural. Well that is good! (your second statement) Spoiler Well, I’m not saying that we shouldn’t eat vegetables or that vegans foods do not have their pros. I just believe that a diet containing only vegetables is not as good as a regural diet. I’m A mEsS! sTaY aWaY fRoM mE, mY eIgHt PeTs AnD mY bLuE bIsCuItS, yOu FrEaK! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling 3,732 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stefani Gaga said: Meat, cheese and milk are appetizing, yes. If we truly believe that no living thing should have to die for our dinner, we shouldn’t eat at all. If we truly believe that all life deserves equal respect, why not equalize ourselves by embracing the elegant fact that we are all driven by the same hungers that motivate any other creature - the squirrel in the forest, the vole in the meadow, the bear on the mountainside, the deer in the valley? I copied that. Can you see that there is a world of difference between the intentional keeping and slaughter of livestock (Over 56 billion animals a year) and incidental deaths caused by agricultural practise? And don't get me wrong, I try to avoid any foods from an industry causing great devastation to species and their habitats I.e Palm Oil. I don't condone that kind of thing at all. *she switched baristas. ☕️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani Gaga 3,359 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, drinkmytears said: Just like you could walk or take the bus instead of riding in a car. Planes fill up. Last minute decisions are made. Everyone uses a private jet so no I don't really think we can argue he shouldn't use one Who said I’m not walking, riding a bike and using car as my only means of transportation? Well you know that could be true (the second statement), but he flew 6 times in 6 weeks with a private jet. Coincidence? I think not. No, I don’t use a private jet and those who do, do not claim themselves to be environmentalists. You can defend him as an environmentalist (I do), but this action was not right. I’m A mEsS! sTaY aWaY fRoM mE, mY eIgHt PeTs AnD mY bLuE bIsCuItS, yOu FrEaK! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling 3,732 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stefani Gaga said: It does depend from product to product, yes. Still, I would rather eat something natural. Well that is good! (your second statement) Hide contents Well, I’m not saying that we shouldn’t eat vegetables or that vegans foods do not have their pros. I just believe that a diet containing only vegetables is not as good as a regural diet. I appreciate your concerns regarding the restrictive nature of a vegan diet. But in all honestly, a person can obtain every* nutrient they require in sufficient amounts** only eating plant-based foods. *B-12 requires a supplement (because only bacteria synthesis it) **probably a good idea to consume foods fortified in vitamin D if you're not living in a sunny country. *she switched baristas. ☕️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani Gaga 3,359 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Earthling said: Can you see that there is a world of difference between the intentional keeping and slaughter of livestock (Over 56 billion animals a year) and incidental deaths caused by agricultural practise? And don't get me wrong, I try to avoid any foods from an industry causing great devastation to species and their habitats I.e Palm Oil. I don't condone that kind of thing at all. Yes, I see that and I agree. I do not support slaughter either sis. I’m A mEsS! sTaY aWaY fRoM mE, mY eIgHt PeTs AnD mY bLuE bIsCuItS, yOu FrEaK! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 118,081 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 ILU Leo, but I like meat products Pizza, pasta carbonara, ham sammich, grilled cheese, carnitas, fried chicken, peking duck, chilli dog, beef stroganoff, and so on and so forth (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ⁱᵐ'ᵐᵃ ʰⁱᵗ ᵈᵉᶠʳᵒˢᵗ ᵒⁿ ʸᵃ, ˡᵉᵗ'ˢ ᵍᵉᵗ ⁱᵗ ᵇˡᵃᶻⁱⁿᵍ﹗ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani Gaga 3,359 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Earthling said: I appreciate your concerns regarding the restrictive nature of a vegan diet. But in all honestly, a person can obtain every* nutrient they require in sufficient amounts** only eating plant-based foods. *B-12 requires a supplement (because only bacteria synthesis it) **probably a good idea to consume foods fortified in vitamin D if you're not living in a sunny country. Anyway, how’s Leo doing? I’m A mEsS! sTaY aWaY fRoM mE, mY eIgHt PeTs AnD mY bLuE bIsCuItS, yOu FrEaK! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Yikes some people in this thread We can all do things to prevent pollution, a plant based diet is a great way to do that, why drag the man for doing something good with his fame? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhettoFabulous 18,501 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, MonsterPaws said: I thought that was the case (and still do somewhat). But this is a complete myth. Just look for canned beans, grains (not the fancy ones. Rice, oats etc. are more than enough), tofu which is crazy cheap, veggies (fresh, frozen, canned if you're desperate), pasta (craaaazy cheap in practically any country!). If you're in the US (think: Trader Joe's or Costco NOT Whole Foods) veganism is even cheaper than where I'm from. A good rule of thumb: avoid anything with "VEGAN" in all-caps. Basically avoid anything directly marketed towards vegans. Vegan Oreos? Nope, just buy regular oreos, and look through the labels for non-vegan ingredients. And the list goes on and on. If anything veganism can be way cheaper if you know where to look (shouldn't be too hard). Will defs try it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling 3,732 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, Stefani Gaga said: Yes, I see that and I agree. I do not support slaughter either sis. So you're vegan too? *she switched baristas. ☕️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani Gaga 3,359 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Earthling said: So you're vegan too? Gurl, you slaughter plants too! Spoiler Jk Spoiler No, I’m not a vegan. I like meat and I eat meat that hasn’t been slaughtered (if there is a way ). Don’t come for me sis. I’m not that educated about vegetarianism. I’m A mEsS! sTaY aWaY fRoM mE, mY eIgHt PeTs AnD mY bLuE bIsCuItS, yOu FrEaK! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauntingHollow 4,310 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 does it say "meat from plants" ? what ? You can not hide if nobody pays attention to you :* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthling 3,732 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, Stefani Gaga said: Gurl, you slaughter plants too! Hide contents Jk Hide contents No, I’m not a vegan. I like meat and I eat meat that hasn’t been slaughtered (if there is a way ). Don’t come for me sis. I’m not that educated about vegetarianism Sis all meat is from slaughtered animals... *she switched baristas. ☕️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani Gaga 3,359 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Earthling said: Sis all meat is from slaughtered animals... I’m A mEsS! sTaY aWaY fRoM mE, mY eIgHt PeTs AnD mY bLuE bIsCuItS, yOu FrEaK! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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