Melech 9,900 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 "The announcements pave the way for the burqa and niqab to be outlawed in the Scandinavian country. The stance by Liberal Alliance represents a shift in the party’s official line on the issue, while Venstre, the senior party in the government, had waited before the announcement of an official line with opinion divided amongst its MPs, reports broadcaster DR. Venstre reached agreement on an official line during a party meeting on Friday morning, according to DR’s report. The party will now support moves to forbid the wearing of face-masking garments in public – in practice banning the two types of Islamic veil from public use. “We in the Liberal party will support a ban on masking that will be forthcoming. It is not a religiously defined ban on masking, but the burqa and niqab will obviously be covered by it,” political spokesperson Jakob Ellemann-Jessen said according to DR. Ellemann-Jessen conceded that the party had considered a number of issues in its discussion of the potential ban. “It was a balance between several considerations. There are two Liberal viewpoints. On one side, we should allow people to wear what they want. On the other side, an open liberal society needs people to be able to look each other in the eye and meet face-to-face. These two things clash, and that’s why we’re having this discussion,” he continued. Ellemann-Jessen also stressed that the party was now united behind the potential ban, despite prominent figures, such as deputy leader Kristian Jensen and Minister of Higher Education and Science Søren Pind, previously saying they were against it. ““Everyone agrees that the burqa is an expression of extreme oppression of women,” party leader Anders Samuelsen wrote in a Facebook post. “Now there is a majority in parliament that thinks the burka/veiling should be fought… So if a ban like this is possible in practice without harming ourselves or our own values, then yes, LA will vote for it,” Samuelsen continued. The two parties join fellow conservative parties the Conservatives and the Danish People’s Party (DF) in support the ban, thereby securing a parliamentary majority. The latter party started the latest round of discussion of the issue in Denmark when it announced in July that it would forward a proposal for a ban in the new parliamentary session." https://www.thelocal.dk/20171006/denmark-government-announces-support-for-burqa-ban Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Insider 2,949 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I definitely have issues with the veil and what it represents, but once a country starts banning items of clothing in the name of liberalism, I do think that maybe you need to start worrying you've gone toon far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee 2,528 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Do they wanna peek underneath the cover? On a more serious side, though, I don't know much about the Parliament of Denmark, but is the majority of votes enough for the legislation to become a law? Don't they require it to be signed by the President/Queen ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Heart 619 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Amen! Great job Denmark, the rest should follow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,563 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 The Burqa ban in Austria has been in effect since Oct. 1st. And as much as I'm against Burqas, I find the law to be a bit weird. Because now it's also forbidden to walk around the streets in a clown costume unless it's Carnival or Halloweenfor example, or with a scarf when it's NOT cold outside: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirius094 2,248 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Well done Denmark Pem Pem Perempem Pem Pem Pem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Good, it doesn't need any part of modern society and is also a safety issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
i medici 1,746 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 43 minutes ago, bumblebee said: Don't they require it to be signed by the President/Queen ? A signature from the royal family is only for show these days lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,625 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 31 minutes ago, tomsches said: The Burqa ban in Austria has been in effect since Oct. 1st. And as much as I'm against Burqas, I find the law to be a bit weird. Because now it's also forbidden to walk around the streets in a clown costume unless it's Carnival or Halloweenfor example, or with a scarf when it's NOT cold outside: okay so the top ones are permitted? then i see no problem because the veil that shows the face is enough for muslims to be "modest", the others are only opressive. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,563 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, littlepotter said: okay so the top ones are permitted? then i see no problem because the veil that shows the face is enough for muslims to be "modest", the others are only opressive. yes, the top ones are permitted, the ones in the middle are permitted only under certain circumstances, like traditional events (Carnival, Halloween etc.) or when it is cold outside. I just find it a bit weird that we need a law against clowns and people wearing scarves in summer. Clearly, what they wanted to do is ban the burqa, but since people were scared of being discriminatory against muslims, they called it a "cover-up-your-face-ban" and now this is what we got. I'm sure, if the police sees a person wearing a clown mask on the streets or a hoody and a scarf in summer, they're not going to do anything about it, but if they see a burqa, they're gonna give them a fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 76,625 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, tomsches said: yes, the top ones are permitted, the ones in the middle are permitted only under certain circumstances, like traditional events (Carnival, Halloween etc.) or when it is cold outside. I just find it a bit weird that we need a law against clowns and people wearing scarves in summer. Clearly, what they wanted to do is ban the burqa, but since people were scared of being discriminatory against muslims, they called it a "cover-up-your-face-ban" and now this is what we got. I'm sure, if the police sees a person wearing a clown mask on the streets or a hoody and a scarf in summer, they're not going to do anything about it, but if they see a burqa, they're gonna give them a fine. i think anyone covering their face are a threat and should be questioned by the police. this mentality has no place in 2017 chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit4ever 2,034 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Good, when will my country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterPaws 2,745 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Totally agree with this. As long as Muslim women have the freedom to wear the hijab, I'm down with this ban (they better enforce it on things other than the burqa or else this would be another law targeting Muslim women ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthen 4,621 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 50 minutes ago, littlepotter said: okay so the top ones are permitted? then i see no problem because the veil that shows the face is enough for muslims to be "modest", the others are only opressive. Tbh the only places I see niqabs being worn in are here (the Gulf) and Egypt (and the few Gulf tourists who do wear it in the UK/Germany/France/Austria). I don't even know what the middle one in the last row is 20 minutes ago, MonsterPaws said: Totally agree with this. As long as Muslim women have the freedom to wear the hijab, I'm down with this ban (they better enforce it on things other than the burqa or else this would be another law targeting Muslim women ) This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthen 4,621 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 39 minutes ago, brit4ever said: Good, when will my country? If you're in Northern Europe it's only a matter of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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