GypsyBabe 22,836 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Alexander Levi said: NoĀ But I think thatās an important factor into it. But, to my knowledge, she didnāt objectify women and treatĀ them as her propertyĀ Anyway, I hope the family is doing well... I just canāt justify how he treated women.Ā But those women wanted to be there. Wanted to be sexual. Wanted to have freedom that their current society did not allow. He didn't purchase them.Ā āÆĶ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Death is sad, but whoever his current wife is... Stream my new single, š"Heartbeat"š, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, GypsyBabe said: But those women wanted to be there. Wanted to be sexual. Wanted to have freedom that their current society did not allow. He didn't purchase them.Ā Oh my god. Just look up the controversies of the Playboy Bunny house by some of his girlfriends. Itās not like he treated all of them with respect. People should be allowed to be as sexual as they want to be but that still means there has to be respect on both sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyBabe 22,836 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Alexander Levi said: Oh my god. Just look up the controversies of the Playboy Bunny house by some of his girlfriends. Itās not like he treated all of them with respect. People should be allowed to be as sexual as they want to be but that still means there has to be respect on both sides. I guess that I just don't view things as black or white. We agree to disagree.Ā Again, they chose to be there, and they had the ability to leave at any time. They were willing to stay because they enjoyed the perks.Ā I don't agree with the lifestyle at all. I just view the women at the Playboy Mansion as using their sexuality in power and business...which is their right.Ā I can't fault them or Hefner, when I do the same things on a much smaller scale. I can't pretend that I don't flirt like hell to get out of tickets or get my car inspected for free.Ā āÆĶ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, GypsyBabe said: I guess that I just don't view things as black or white. We agree to disagree. Again, they chose to be there, and they had the ability to leave at any time. They were willing to stay because they enjoyed the perks.Ā I don't agree with the lifestyle at all. I just view the women at the Playboy Mansion as using their sexuality in power and business...which is their right.Ā I can't fault them or Hefner, when I do the same things on a much smaller scale. I can't pretend that I don't flirt like hell to get out of tickets or get my car inspected for free.Ā I donāt know... itās pretty dangerous to say that the woman chooses to be in a relationship and she can leave at any time.... I mean could you not say that abuse victims? It was their choice to stay? (Iām NOT saying he abused women by any means). I mean, it seems like he could easily blackmail these women and it wasnāt just a walk in the park. Telling women that they should watch their weight when they are in the most perfect shapeĀ is NOT ok... I donāt care if you have the choice to leave or notĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatfoxyfeeling 13,436 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 33 minutes ago, Alexander Levi said: So I can be a shitty person but be really good at my job and that makes me an icon.Ā And so what if the women were in it for the money? That doesnāt give him the right to treat them like property.Ā Ā 24 minutes ago, Alexander Levi said: NoĀ But I think thatās an important factor into it. But, to my knowledge, she didnāt objectify women and treatĀ them as her propertyĀ Anyway, I hope the family is doing well... I just canāt justify how he treated women.Ā You do realise that theyāre just accusations and he has never been convicted for mistreating women? Gaga has had numerous accusations against her, many celebrities do. You sound hypocritical, I bet you watch **** all the time and against women embracing their sexuality and enjoying sex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyBabe 22,836 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, Alexander Levi said: I donāt know... itās pretty dangerous to say that the woman chooses to be in a relationship and she can leave at any time.... I mean could you not say that abuse victims? It was their choice to stay? (Iām NOT saying he abused women by any means). I mean, it seems like he could easily blackmail these women and it wasnāt just a walk in the park. Telling women that they should watch their weight when they are in the most perfect Health is NOT ok... I donāt care if you have the choice to leave or notĀ Well physical and mental abuse is obviously different. I also have always promoted body acceptance.Ā I just think that Hefner is an easy person to vilify is all. I also feel like feminists attack him so fervently when I just have a different view on the whole situation. For individuals who are pro-feminism to speak so openly about women's rights and freedoms, but to speak openly about their disgust at Playboy just doesnt make sense to me. Playboy was a launching point for many women into the careers that they wanted, and gave them sexual power in an oppressive time where they were simply viewed as "get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich and you better have sex with me later because you oweĀ it to me"... Women's rights should be all encompassing. Just because you don't agree with whether or not the behavior is morally valid is irrelevant. The professional prostitute is no different than a CEO in my mind as they both have equal power. Just like the women in the Playboy Mansion used their sexuality to get them ahead.Ā Not so much trying to argue, just some thoughts I guess.Ā āÆĶ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, JamesFox said: Ā You do realise that theyāre just accusations and he has never been convicted for mistreating women? Gaga has had numerous accusations against her, many celebrities do. You sound hypocritical, I bet you watch **** all the time and against women embracing their sexuality and enjoying sex. You donāt have toĀ commitĀ a crime to haveĀ mistreated aĀ womanĀ Thank you for your assumptions of me. I actually dislike most **** and I think women should be free to do what they want. I encourage it as long as it is safe and respectful on both sides. You assume because I donāt like Hugh that I think women should just be housewivesĀ please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The happiest man to have ever lived! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 118,653 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 He had the most fun in the world while he lives. And he helped to break the taboo too while doing it. All the women who think they're sexy and enjoy being complimented and admired for it have a venue to do so and don't have to be afraid to be drag into BS like the guilt trip that some people will always want to do. It helped women to understand their sex appeal and how to use it. Playboy magazine will always be a part of pop culture history whether you like it or not. Without it we won't have SEX book by Madonna, or Victoria's Secrets Angels and many more things. So I give him that. Hope he is rest in peace. Ā (ļ¾āć®ā)ļ¾ā§*:ļ½„ļ¾ each thing I show you is a piece of my death (*Ā“čøļ½*) ā”ā”ā” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterBall13 1,230 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Hugh Hefner the founder of playboy magazine died of natural causes at age 91 http://www.npr.org/2017/09/27/531884820/-playboy-founder-hugh-hefner-who-championed-free-speech-and-smut-dies-at-91 Ā May he RIP. Playboy was something my mom always admired and she passed away in JanuaryĀ She auditioned for the magazine twiceĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robagaga 9,345 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Ā Sorry for your mom btwĀ take care! Ā Ā Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind. Always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3ARS 4,132 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Whoa, rip It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize, accept, and celebrate those differences. - Audre Lorde Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 176,348 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 @MonsterBall13 Merged your thread here Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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