heimerdinger 36 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Just now, Stevo said: Please stop replying if you're going to have an argument on this thread honestly. They started it first with the excuse me no's, it irritates the **** out of me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Stevo said: What do you guys think of this vocally?@Adakam @JR Gg @Kylie Jenner Oh its good, but still anyone can do it with 2 months of singing lessons. Again, I respect, understand and admire her trajectory and her legacy, but in a thread about her talent, you have to talk about the bad stuff too. And I really would expect better pipes from someone with that long and succesful career and I really do believe that anyone can do it if they put their minds to it and practice enough. For some reason she didnt, maybe she didnt have time, maybe she didnt care as she was succesful enough, i dont know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoxo Adriana 15,040 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Stevo said: What do you guys think of this vocally?@Adakam @JR Gg @Kylie Jenner She has great vocals. And to clarify my first comment about her vocals being "very pop and meh" doesn't mean that I'm saying her vocals are terrible. Its great you brought this video to attention which shows Madonna's vocals at her best. When I compared Madonna's and Gaga's vocals, I said versatility wise Gaga's voice is better, she's done pop, rock, metal, country, jazz, RnB (even hip hop but not that it really matters ) There may have also been some things Madonna has done better vocally than Gaga, but i'm not a stan so I haven't really searched up every performance she's done apart from popular performances (VMAs, Grammys etc) Madonna may have done a few pop songs with other genres influenced in them but she hasn't really performed the range of genres Gaga has, Jazz especially. Listen to any Madonna song and picture her singing it in Jazz her vocals are just not for it. Overall I don't want people getting the impression I'm saying Madonna's vocals are lousy. "meh" could simply mean mediocre or average for pop...which is more what I was intending in my response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo 633 Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, Kylie Jenner said: She has great vocals. And to clarify my first comment about her vocals being "very pop and meh" doesn't mean that I'm saying her vocals are terrible. Its great you brought this video to attention which shows Madonna's vocals at her best. When I compared Madonna's and Gaga's vocals, I said versatility wise Gaga's voice is better, she's done pop, rock, metal, country, jazz, RnB (even hip hop but not that it really matters ) There may have also been some things Madonna has done better vocally than Gaga, but i'm not a stan so I haven't really searched up every performance she's done apart from popular performances (VMAs, Grammys etc) Madonna may have done a few pop songs with other genres influenced in them but she hasn't really performed the range of genres Gaga has, Jazz especially. Listen to any Madonna song and picture her singing it in Jazz her vocals are just not for it. Overall I don't want people getting the impression I'm saying Madonna's vocals are lousy. "meh" could simply mean mediocre or average for pop...which is more what I was intending in my response. I'm also not a stan but I dislike when people deem certain singers as being vocally talentless but yeah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heimerdinger 36 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, Kylie Jenner said: She has great vocals. And to clarify my first comment about her vocals being "very pop and meh" doesn't mean that I'm saying her vocals are terrible. Its great you brought this video to attention which shows Madonna's vocals at her best. When I compared Madonna's and Gaga's vocals, I said versatility wise Gaga's voice is better, she's done pop, rock, metal, country, jazz, RnB (even hip hop but not that it really matters ) There may have also been some things Madonna has done better vocally than Gaga, but i'm not a stan so I haven't really searched up every performance she's done apart from popular performances (VMAs, Grammys etc) Madonna may have done a few pop songs with other genres influenced in them but she hasn't really performed the range of genres Gaga has, Jazz especially. Listen to any Madonna song and picture her singing it in Jazz her vocals are just not for it. Overall I don't want people getting the impression I'm saying Madonna's vocals are lousy. "meh" could simply mean mediocre or average for pop...which is more what I was intending in my response. lmfao that chimpanzee emote made me dead LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO But I also heard she did a jazz album called something "breathless" and I've seen a vid of her Oscars performance performing a jazz song "Sooner or Later" and she sounded pretty good imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyQueen 2,409 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 After 10 world tours with more than 600 show and more than 16 million people attending her shows some are still blind to see the talent! Madonna is not just a singer and a dancer, she is entertainer and one of the best in history of pop. Thats why she is called Queen of pop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvyInferno 145 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Because people likes to hate others and bitch somebody when they are in "competition" with somebody else that they love? Any pop singers will be hated by fans from other pop singers. It is so ridiculous. Being both a Madonna and Gaga fan, I just see both sides throwing insults at each others non-stop. I facepalmed so many times I don't even have a face anymore. Both are talented in a different way. Gaga has the best voice, clearly. Madonna can be a great singer too when she wants, she's just not as good as Gaga. But personnally I would say that Madonna's concerts are better. I love them both. They entertain me both, and I admire them. Gaga is still rocking after 10 years, Madonna has a 30 years career... I think both made their point They have talent AND people love them. Music isn't about popularity, music is about feelings. You like a singer that I like? Cool! You like a singer I hate hearing? Good for you, ENJOY! * spread kindness everywhere * Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,641 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 17 hours ago, scallywally said: OK now youre deluded. compare the females M has work worked with to Gagas, youre making us look stupid yet again. Oh dear, youre a lost cause. Shes worked female with artists, dancers, singers, even putting them up front instead of her since 1986. Gaga hasn't. Please stop because you are digging us into a hole. What about the schools she's been trying to build for girls???? Get real. She signed Alanis ffs. Her designer is a woman back from the 80's, shes got a female Japanese chef, her Malawi nanny is female, shes got 3 daughters and has supported all saints kylie, the woman from texas supported her amy shumer supported her and esp Britney. Youre grasping at straws and sounding ignorant now. Google who her friends are, Then maybe google Gagas because if you carry on like this gaga daily is going to be a laughing stock. I'm talking about fellow female artists she's worked with, not women in general. When it comes to women who do the same job as her, she distances herself from them. And of course a lot of designers, chefs and nannies will be female anyway. She's shaded Britney before, she said something about how she was "built like a brick s**thouse." She's been mean to other singers like Sinead O'Connor and Courtney Love. And if we want to talk about females in general, she was also asked in interview: "Does the name Joan Collins scare you?" and she replied: "No, have you seen her lately?" and even infamously said in her Truth Or Dare special: "And that is another reason not to live in Chicago...aside from the fact that Oprah Winfrey lives here." She even had the gall to flirt with Antonio Banderas when his wife was sitting right there and even made jokes about how she knew what she was doing. I'm not grasping at straws or sounding ignorant. It's all out there. And I doubt Gaga fans are going to be a laughing stock because of a few posts I made on this site. Stop being so dramatic. You just can't accept that an artist you like has a serious attitude problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow 1,582 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 @StrawberryBlond Oh please just stop. Your rewriting of history and facts is so Trump that it would be better to just quietly exit stage left now. It's getting embarrasing. You try to "sound educated & informed" but no, just no... you're not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallywally 626 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 1 easy google will show you how Brit & M love each other. Shes said positive things about EVERYONE unless you don't have a sense of humor. Courtney love ffs?? Look them up they are friends!! They bitch back to one another with friendly banter. Give up with that one. What about Amy, Adele?? Christina?? Cher?? Miley?? Katy?? Ariana?? She supports them all. So M doesn't like Brit? https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=madonna+and+britney+t+shirts&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwja1cOV483WAhWjJMAKHYB0BZAQ_AUICigB&biw=2102&bih=1002#imgrc=XVWQZiCfEB_8sM: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,641 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Snow said: @StrawberryBlond Oh please just stop. Your rewriting of history and facts is so Trump that it would be better to just quietly exit stage left now. It's getting embarrasing. You try to "sound educated & informed" but no, just no... you're not. I'm not re-writing history. I'm taking all this stuff from videos I saw of Madonna saying nasty things about others. Here's some of the videos if you don't believe me: You really need to stop being so rude and stifling my opinion. You wouldn't like it if I did that to you. I just don't like Madonna's attitude, ok? Just accept it because trying to get me to change my mind ain't happening. 56 minutes ago, scallywally said: 1 easy google will show you how Brit & M love each other. Shes said positive things about EVERYONE unless you don't have a sense of humor. Courtney love ffs?? Look them up they are friends!! They bitch back to one another with friendly banter. Give up with that one. What about Amy, Adele?? Christina?? Cher?? Miley?? Katy?? Ariana?? She supports them all. So M doesn't like Brit? https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=madonna+and+britney+t+shirts&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwja1cOV483WAhWjJMAKHYB0BZAQ_AUICigB&biw=2102&bih=1002#imgrc=XVWQZiCfEB_8sM: Watch the videos above and it could put paid to some of those notions. Cher especially has never liked her. You'll notice that Madonna's only friendly with those who aren't a threat to her, hence why she liked the likes of Britney, who was never known for having a good voice or writing her own songs or even having her own opinions. But next to someone like Gaga, she knows she's not as good, so she stays away from her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallywally 626 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Cher likes her! your making yourself look worse!!! And your last line about she stays away from gaga?? She took her daughter to see her, she praised her non stop!!! Madonna thinks she's talented she just said song was reductive. NOT GAGA. They have been photographed together since. She also had the right to say it. The same as images from alejandro from Vogue photo shoots, costumes and the Blonde Ambition tour wig. Yet all that and M has praised MM as an artist and singer. If that's not enough for you, youre starving for an argument that you will never win. Stop. Jesus not only do you not know youre history dragging up 20 year old clips. Are you 8 years old? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallywally 626 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I could reply to that with you tubes of Britney/Christina/prince/mj/katys/gagas shadiest monents you tubes. youre being 1 sided and slanderous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallywally 626 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Cher quote ' I think Madge might be one of the mose amazing artists ive ever known' SEP 2013 The also did the womens march to Washington together in this last year. Don't dig up old **** on people that you know nothing about. GET REAL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallywally 626 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Also look up KD Lang, Bjork. I really don't know how the f*** you think she doesn't support female singers. She does it more than ANYONE. Gaga doesn't have 20 year old videos to dig up (although I hope she's still around in 30/40 years). She's shaded people as much. you know it. Everybody does (you are now - how ironic). grow up. There's room for everyone, no one is better than the other that's according to taste. The world isn't spinning to be the biggest and the best in the art world. Ive said it before, because of Madonna we have gaga. We should be respectful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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