N a t h a n 694 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 HELL NO. She's almost as good as Katy Perry as a pop star, and she should stay that way. tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,423 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I like the way she did Electric Chapel. It was a good mix of rock and pop music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noPo09eqEhA&feature=youtube_gdata_player 🖤“Thoughts are the shadows of our feelings -- always darker, emptier and simpler.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjork 1 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 She's one of the only artists that can pull off any genre. I wouldn't mind if she did that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysium 7 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 I like the way she did Electric Chapel. It was a good mix of rock and pop music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noPo09eqEhA&feature=youtube_gdata_player This I hope that in 15-20 years time she makes theatrical tours, but at a piano only, and some dance, but only a bit :coffee: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice 3 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 If no one makes successful rock music nowadays, it's dead. Rock 'n roll ain't about being #1 in the charts. :nails: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,423 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I don't agree completely. Rock, as everything in life, needs reinvention. And I think that some rock bands are trying to reinvent it, succeeding. Well, the classics remain great for a reason. When you say reinvention, I think you mean creativity. If rock bands get creative with their sounds and themes, it can be very entertaining. Why start over when there is a base of work to build from? 🖤“Thoughts are the shadows of our feelings -- always darker, emptier and simpler.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysium 7 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Well, the classics remain great for a reason. When you say reinvention, I think you mean creativity. If rock bands get creative with their sounds and themes, it can be very entertaining. Why start over when there is a base of work to build from? I agree with that, but pop is the same. It has a base and pop classics remain great as well. It is creativity what I'm talking about. But while rock doesn't mix genres, pop usually mixes a lot kinds of music, and that's what it sounds SO different from one period to another. For example, Gaga got really inspired, and used as a base the pop from the 80's, so reinvention in Pop isn't complete. Every music genre has its influences, and obviously, a base to start from :) Edited April 1, 2012 by Elysium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interludicrous 15 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) I just feel that rock music has a certain authenticity in its sound that pop generally lacks. Pop music often feels so copy+paste in the way every part of it sounds the same. It's much less organic. I don't necessarily want Gaga to bring rock back as a genre, but she could at least try to put some of that authenticity back in pop. Because even though we as a fanbase know how authentic she is, you can barely hear it when listening to her music as a non-fan. One of the most clear examples I could give is You and I live and studio version. The studio version feels really forced, and even though it sounds like rock, it's still trapped in a pop mold. If you look at her live performances, the song bursts with energy. You can see the same thing in most of her songs (Paparazzi at V festival, Marry The Night at Children in Need, etc.). It's much more alive and organic. She needs to find a way to put that rock energy on an album, and not just in her live performances. But maybe it's just me. Edited April 1, 2012 by Interludicrous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice 3 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I agree with that, but pop is the same. It has a base and pop classics remain great as well. It is creativity what I'm talking about. But while rock doesn't mix genres, pop usually mixes a lot kinds of music, and that's what it sounds SO different from one period to another. For example, Gaga got really inspired, and used as a base the pop from the 80's, so reinvention in Pop isn't complete. Every music genre has its influences, and obviously, a base to start from :) that's not accurate they are tons of sub genres in rock and metal music. I could cite you plenty of rock/heavy metal bands who mix different genres of music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysium 7 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) that's not accurate they are tons of sub genres in rock and metal music. I could cite you plenty of rock/heavy metal bands who mix different genres of music. I know, but what I try to say is that pop is a wide genre where a LOT of mixed genres can fit in, rock isn't that open. I just feel that rock music has a certain authenticity in its sound that pop generally lacks. Pop music often feels so copy+paste in the way every part of it sounds the same. It's much less organic. I don't necessarily want Gaga to bring rock back as a genre, but she could at least try to put some of that authenticity back in pop. Because even though we as a fanbase know how authentic she is, you can barely hear it when listening to her music as a non-fan. One of the most clear examples I could give is You and I live and studio version. The studio version feels really forced, and even though it sounds like rock, it's still trapped in a pop mold. If you look at her live performances, the song bursts with energy. You can see the same thing in most of her songs (Paparazzi at V festival, Marry The Night at Children in Need, etc.). It's much more alive and organic. She needs to find a way to put that rock energy on an album, and not just in her live performances. But maybe it's just me. I think becuase pop have had pretty much no sense for a few years, Gaga may sound meaningless to a lot of people, becuase pop act usually follow the stereotype of a manufactured artist... But Gaga, as BBC said in their review of BTW, is one of the only pop acts putting effort and more than a commercial effect on the music. Born This Way features a lot of rock influences, not only in the music, but in the way she sings the tracks. Shes sings the hell of Americano, MTN, Hair, Yoü And I... without no autotune or anything. I think this is the first step for a much developed artist... I'd say that Pop is much more artistic in the way that is much more malleable, when Rock is much more organic. Edited April 1, 2012 by Elysium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucci 0 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) tbh Edited April 1, 2012 by Pucci Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysium 7 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 tbh That is :legend: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,423 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 tbh I love that performance. It reminded me of Aerosmith. 🖤“Thoughts are the shadows of our feelings -- always darker, emptier and simpler.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Space 14 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I would figuratively explode of happiness. Could you imagine her doing something like Whole Lotta Love? :worship2: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eulonzo 51 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Rock is dead. Pop is in. Deal wit it gurl. :nacho: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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