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H. Clinton: We need to eliminate the Electoral College


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9 hours ago, M Monstre said:

Of course she'd say that, but also, she won by 3 million votes.

The Electoral College has failed 5 times, and has about a 7% failure rate. While that doesn't sound bad, it's a pretty big margin of error considering that this is the system that elects the Commander in Chief of one of the most powerful nations in the world.

It's not like people didn't show up to vote. Granted, a lot more people could have, but again, she won by 3 million votes. It's not a couple hundred, not a couple thousand, not a couple hundred thousand, but 3 million. That's huge! 

It's also the system that helped destabilized a chunk of the middle east (Iraq). There are reports that Bush and the CIA or something knew about an attack  (which would be 9/11) but ignored the threat since it wasn't that major, but I won't go that far since I don't have evidence. I wouldn't be surprised if it were true, but I'm not gonna go on a reach and say it is (but if it were true, well that's the electoral college for you).

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11 hours ago, Yuuri said:

With Popular Vote, Obama would still have been president, twice! '08 he had a near 10 M lead and in 2012 he had a 5 M lead.

While I do disagree with the guy who said Obama would've lost, there might be a situation where it would be true. Besides 2 terms of Reagen and 1 term of Bush Sr, there hasn't been a case of a party winning 3 elections in a row (or at least in modern history). Obama probably would've won due to his popularity (and being having a black president excited lots of people), but it's one of those what if scenarios.

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Also just wanted to point out that using this system, you could lose all but 12 states and still win. Really proves that there's something wrong with the system.

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11 hours ago, Yuuri said:

With Popular Vote, Obama would still have been president, twice! '08 he had a near 10 M lead and in 2012 he had a 5 M lead.

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12 hours ago, Chrastapher said:

I'm a minority and I'm educated along with many other people.....:classy:

It didn't mean that minorities are uneducated, it means that suppressing the vote in anyway can be used against good people. We shouldn't be aiming to make less people vote in any way. Sorry if that comment confused people 

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I agree- it simply doesn't work in modern times...

Walk down the runway but don't puke, it's okay. You just had 10 donuts today. Without frosting.
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Well, can't say I' shocked. :awkney:

Although it sucks, sure, but being the apolitical weirdo I am, I have a question. If you all say 1 vote = vote to win I kinda want this answered (I'm ready for the backlash so :ladyhaha:)

If on Nov. 8th, 2016, where as Hillary won the election, and Trump lost, but what if Trump won the popular vote, but Hillary only won the electoral college? Would the logic of the electoral college still be bad and not give everyone their say in the election or no? 

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52 minutes ago, BabyMonster said:

Well, can't say I' shocked. :awkney:

Although it sucks, sure, but being the apolitical weirdo I am, I have a question. If you all say 1 vote = vote to win I kinda want this answered (I'm ready for the backlash so :ladyhaha:)

If on Nov. 8th, 2016, where as Hillary won the election, and Trump lost, but what if Trump won the popular vote, but Hillary only won the electoral college? Would the logic of the electoral college still be bad and not give everyone their say in the election or no? 

The Electoral College backfired badly this election, as it was made to keep people like Trump out of office. America is more than of a game of Monopoly.

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2 hours ago, Yuuri said:

The Electoral College backfired badly this election, as it was made to keep people like Trump out of office. America is more than of a game of Monopoly.

Oh I love Monopoly! I always take Boardwalk and Park Place and make everyone's game an absolute hell. :selena:

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4 hours ago, BabyMonster said:

Well, can't say I' shocked. :awkney:

Although it sucks, sure, but being the apolitical weirdo I am, I have a question. If you all say 1 vote = vote to win I kinda want this answered (I'm ready for the backlash so :ladyhaha:)

If on Nov. 8th, 2016, where as Hillary won the election, and Trump lost, but what if Trump won the popular vote, but Hillary only won the electoral college? Would the logic of the electoral college still be bad and not give everyone their say in the election or no? 

Yes. Granted I would've been happy for he moment, but I would've absolutely admitted publicly that it was unfair and that Trump deserved to be president in that situation. I was anti-EC long before Hillary won the PV but lost the EC.

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