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H. Clinton: We need to eliminate the Electoral College


Yuuri

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Even Trump said it should be eliminated sometime last year in between all the other things he said last year. 

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Well she's not wrong :reductive:

It not even (just) the fact that she lost the EC, it's the fact that the EC's original job was to protect the nation against a candidate LIKE Trump, but failed to (because way back when it was instilled the founders knew that giving the people ALL the power isn't good because the masses are easily persuaded by emotion and honestly kind of stupid :selena: )

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bumblebee

The electoral college in the USA is one of the most peculiar things in the world politics. It's a perfect arguement for the motion that USA don't have democracy in the strict Greek meaning of the word. It's not the power of the masses. It's not just about the majority of  simple votes. 

US version of democracy is based on three things: 

free political competition, 

free and independent media, 

rule of law. 

It's one of the best models of society in the world, but the election system is not very democratic now. I knew it was designed in the days when people were afraid of the ignorance of the masses, but today it has brought us to a situation when Republican votes hardly matter in New York, and Democratic votes are not very meaningful in North Dakota. The vote of a person from a swing state has become more important than the vote of a person from a state with a long preference history and red/blue loyalty. It's up to the US citizens now to decide whether or not they want to swish swish bish to another election system. 

 

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Morphine Prince
35 minutes ago, TheKillerQueen said:

Without electoral vote, Obama would've never been the president. Of course she would try to get rid of it cause she lost lol. 

Sweety this is straight up bullshit and you know it. The Democrat candidate has won the popular vote in every single election since 1992 except for Bush's re-election in 2004. 

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Illuminati

Well when she says that it just comes off as bitter since she lost primarily because of electoral college.

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Dominic

It's a flawed system but it's hardly surprising that she would say that. Trump isn't going to backtrack either. This book sounds like it's gonna be a bit too woe is me for my liking but we shall see. 

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1 minute ago, Sizzily said:

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I'd be salty too if I worked three decades in politics just to lose to someone whom has history of politics or the military.

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Katsuki Bakugo

Voting should be mandatory imo. 

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1 hour ago, Yuuri said:

With Popular Vote, Obama would still have been president, twice! '08 he had a near 10 M lead and in 2012 he had a 5 M lead.

I think they meant in the primaries, because he did loose the popular vote in 08 :duck: but still was elected as the democratic nominee :diane:

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Katsuki Bakugo
Just now, Chrastapher said:

You should be educated to vote imo :poot:

You don't get a good picture either way but at least then everyone votes when it is mandatory. 

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1 minute ago, Melisandre said:

You don't get a good picture either way but at least then everyone votes when it is mandatory. 

You can't force citizens to vote :duck:

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Katsuki Bakugo
9 minutes ago, Chrastapher said:

You can't force citizens to vote :duck:

Tell that to Australia wherw I live. You get fined if you don't vote.

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