Buddy 5,686 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, PunkTheFunk said: Not very Come To Mama of you Not every issue can be fixed simply by showing compassion. We can still help Mexico, legally and orderly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloZell Green 11,723 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Buddy said: Nobody thinks that Then saying that they can apply here legally as a solution to their status in the country has no point given the fact that they can get deported within the time frame in which they are evaluated/endure 10-20+ more years having to live in whatever motivates them to apply for citizenship Lady Gaga | Shakira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy 5,686 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, GloZell Green said: Then saying that they can apply here legally as a solution to their status in the country has no point given the fact that they can get deported within the time frame in which they are evaluated/endure 10-20+ more years having to live in whatever motivates them to apply for citizenship Then they shouldn't have come here illegally in the first place. Apply legally in your home country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, Buddy said: Sadly there are repercussions for breaking laws That's why the statement "they can just apply to be legal" is incorrect. They know that, but for many of these people it was a way to save their children's lives. Meanwhile, they have been allowed to stay for decades and to make a life here. The majority are law abiding members of their communities who contribute positively to our economy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 110,002 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 38 minutes ago, Buddy said: Then they shouldn't have come here illegally in the first place. Apply legally in your home country If only it were that easy. I hope you realize for some people crossing illegally was a matter of life or death. For many it was about actually being able to live decently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 If they're in the country illegally what's the issue? "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Goosey said: If they're in the country illegally what's the issue? What is this motel's issue if someone overstayed on their tourist visa or if they were brought to country as kids? It's none of their business. It's pure racism. They're reporting people with Latin American (or Middle Eastern) sounding names, right? Are they gonna report Jack and Becky? What if Becky came from Germany or Ireland as a tourist and decided to stay illegally? You think she has to worry about this motel, probably not. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The statement of probable cause for Rodriguez-Juarez's case filed with the U.S. District Court is vague, noting briefly that ICE officers were “following a lead.” And Department of Homeland Security records state only that ICE’s Phoenix Mobile Criminal Alien Team Unit had “received information that Rodriguez-Juarez was checked into room #214.” “I’m thinking to myself, how would they know that?” Rocha said. “The client said he gave them a Mexican ID card — but there’s people who visit the U.S. all the time who have Mexican IDs. How does that establish that you’re here without authorization?” He added, “I’m assuming it was a Motel 6 person — I don’t know who else would have told them — thinking, ‘Hey, this guy doesn’t speak English, he has a Mexican ID card, I’m going to call ICE.’” FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 minute ago, lego said: Are they gonna report Jack and Becky? What if Becky came from Germany or Ireland as a tourist and decided to stay illegally? You think she has to worry about this motel, probably not. They should report them too. I just watched the movie '15 Minutes' and the main characters were chasing these murderers all over thanks to some European immigrant overstaying her visa. Indeed they might have left earlier and not gone on such a rampage. Anyways the only issue I have is privacy... "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn 3,040 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, lego said: What is this motel's issue if someone overstayed on their tourist visa or if they were brought to country as kids? It's none of their business. It's pure racism. They're reporting people with Latin American (or Middle Eastern) sounding names, right? Are they gonna report Jack and Becky? What if Becky came from Germany or Ireland as a tourist and decided to stay illegally? You think she has to worry about this motel, probably not. I don't agree with reporting guests... but the very first tweet linked says they give ICE a list of ALL guests who check in... not just latin american or middle eastern sounding names. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,869 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Americans are gonna pretend like they don't rely on an undocumented workforce or benefit from taxes paid by undocumented immigrants all while denying that Europeans colonized the Americas by force. But the law is the law, right white America? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliie 2,032 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Buddy said: If the world had no borders, we would all be screwed. The goverment is full of corruption. The borders and immigrants are not the cause of these world problems. Many immigrants are good people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shmal96 2,928 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, PunkTheFunk said: Yes, but there's also this thing called compassion Trump: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliie 2,032 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Buddy said: Just because the past was vile and corrupt doesn't mean we shouldn't have laws to maintain our country. We are still living in a vile and corrupt system . In fact, it is getting worse. Immigration is not the only problem in the US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloZell Green 11,723 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Buddy said: Then they shouldn't have come here illegally in the first place. Apply legally in your home country I addressed that in my post as well. Reading is fundamental. Clearly you're not looking at this argument in their perspectives either Lady Gaga | Shakira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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