Guardian: As Gaga once was, Taylor is now viewed as a snake

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15 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

this*

thanks lol

[Renly 343]

3 minutes ago, CautiousLurker said:

I expect nothing less from someone who thinks only women face double standards 

But who said that?  Are you even paying attention? 

[River 117,672]

Unlike Taylor, Gaga's career was actually damaged not because she did the best to harm another female or a family with kids careers, but because she was kind, generous, helpful and 100% good person, if only she could sell the same amount that Taylor sold with her new song in one day.. I guess she needs to spit on her fans like Justin, laugh about disable and mental ill people like Nicki and call her fans ugly like Rihanna to sell a lot and be #1 all the time..

Sad to see that people are defending the bad artists, stick with Gaga, she's a role model to follow and protect from misogyny and hate..

[CautiousLurker 19,476]

3 minutes ago, Renly said:

But who said that?  Are you even paying attention? 

The person I quoted did in their previous post... soooo, I'm paying more attention that you, apparently 

[Renly 343]

2 minutes ago, CautiousLurker said:

The person I quoted did in their previous post... soooo, I'm paying more attention that you, apparently 

What they're saying is that men and women aren't treated equally and don't face the same oppression/criticism. Especially in Hollywood. And you can see that everyday. You stan Gaga, you should know about that. 

Like I pointed out, you're missing the point. 

[John Slayne 4,154]

1 hour ago, Redstreak said:

Justin still gets hit after hit after hit.

so does Taylor, her new single is breaking all records even though it's terrible 

edit: I'm not gonna defend misogyny and yes it does exist and it is a very real issue but Taylor is not a victim of it... everything she got was justified by her petty and malicious personality

if anything, she's treated better than other pop stars... her new single is breaking records and instagram was actually deleting snake emojis from her comment section yet they never did that with homophobic or racist comments so... yeah Taylor is the epitome of privileged high school white girl who bullies everyone but starts crying as soon as someone calls her out 

[CautiousLurker 19,476]

8 minutes ago, Renly said:

What they're saying is that men and women aren't treated equally and don't face the same oppression/criticism. Especially in Hollywood. And you can see that everyday. You stan Gaga, you should know about that. 

Like I pointed out, you're missing the point. 

I base my opinion on reason and data, rather than solely on singled out first-person accounts, so no, I didn't miss the point, I just don't agree with it... Men and women aren't treated equally, but that doesn't mean men inherently have it better, nor does it mean that sexism is systematic... 

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25 minutes ago, CautiousLurker said:

I expect nothing less from someone who thinks only women face double standards 

I expect nothing less from someone who's clearly ill-informed and ignorant and assumes things on this topic.

Who said anything about only women being held to double standards. Of course some men can be such as men of color and gay or bi men. It's called intersectionality and how these different identities intersect.

But on the whole and when compared to men as a whole group, women are significantly more so. Talk about having no depth or nuance in this discussion 

[CautiousLurker 19,476]

Just now, Gagaloo92 said:

I expect nothing less from someone who's clearly ill-informed and ignorant on this topic.

Who said anything about only women being held to double standards. Of course some men can be such as men of color and gay or bi men. It's called intersectionality and how these different identities intersect.

But on the whole and when compared to men as a whole group, women are significantly more so. Talk about having no depth or nuance in this discussion 

The irony indeed 

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1 hour ago, MJHolland said:

What.... no ones dislikes Taylor because she's a woman... people dislike her because she lied in public to put down Kanye West, and bullies Katy Perry by abandoning her own promises and values to release all her music on Spotify/streaming right when Katy's album dropped. 

People dislike her bc she's done mean things...

Get out of here with the patriarchy bullsh*t. It's phony articles like this that make it hard to call out actually misogyny, which there is plenty of. 

Yaaaaassss

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

Just now, CautiousLurker said:

The irony indeed 

Don't you have an issue you actually care to discuss meaningfully and know something about to go talk about 

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Scream misogyny when a white privileged pop star who built her career around petty feuds and relationships gets called out undermines the real seriousness of misogyny. An example of boy who cried wolf. 

[Renly 343]

5 minutes ago, CautiousLurker said:

I base my opinion on reason and data, rather than solely on singled out first-person accounts, so no, I didn't miss the point, I just don't agree with it... Men and women aren't treated equally, but that doesn't mean men inherently have it better, nor does it mean that sexism is systematic... 

Well, you know, those things negatively affecting men are generally a product of patriarchal society. It's a cycle. 

[CautiousLurker 19,476]

Just now, Gagaloo92 said:

Don't you have an issue you actually care to discuss meaningfully and know something about to go talk about 

Don't you 

[John Slayne 4,154]

also let's stop acting like people stopped hating Gaga "miraculously"... she worked extra hard to get the praise she's getting now so jot that down and don't compare her talent and work ethic to someone so beneath her like Snake...