Wolf Boy 3,183 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 On 30/08/2017 at 4:08 AM, StrawberryBlond said: I get that, but who else could she possibly be referring to when she sings "I don't like your kingdom keys, they once belonged to me"? There's only one artist being called The Queen right now and that's Beyonce. She was also the current reigning queen of the music scene until Taylor just came back. Since Taylor's extended absence, Beyonce has had the best-selling female album of 2016, got outstanding critical reception, has done praised live performances, has won a ton of awards, has had a sold-out stadium tour and was hotly tipped to win the Grammy for AOTY (and probably was the runner-up). Taylor, considering that not too long ago, she had all this, might be feeling a bit resentful and fear that her image as the #1 American female and the #1 female overall is under threat. So, throw in this bit about "kingdom keys" and then a sequence that brings to mind Beyonce's Mrs Carter tour promo video and the Formation video (plus Beyonce performances in general) and we're starting to get an even clearer picture. Taylor's notorious for not showing mega support for fellow female artists if they're at her level of success or greater. She hates Katy, she was just friendly to Gaga whenever they met at award shows but she never became a member of her squad, she's never hung around Rihanna or Nicki. She was never seen around Miley post-Bangerz. I don't think I've ever seen her around Adele. And she's never hung around Beyonce much either (except for big events). Notice how she doesn't feature females on her songs either? The few singers in her squad and the ones she invited onstage were all artists who had very limited success, were one hit wonders or were trying to catch a break at the time (Ellie Goulding, Selena Gomez, Lorde, Meghan Trainor, Fifth Harmony, Rachel Platten, Charli XCX, etc). Basically, no one that posed a huge threat to her. I don't think she has any real reason to hate Beyonce, of course, but maybe there's something that went on behind that scenes that we don't know about? Let's not pretend that Taylor doesn't want to get that queen bee image that Beyonce has. She's no longer hiding the fact that she likes and craves success now. Guuurl..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steff ivanovv 24 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 The video somehow reminds me of so many other videos, though... For example Nelly and Fergie's Party People with the huge swing, Gaga's Fame perfume ad with the leather costume and the aligned mannequins...even the dancing part with the guys in heels somehow reminded me of the Paparazzi video, because of the atmosphere. The cage reminds me of Can't be tamed by Miley... I mean, it's a really well done video and a get the idea of it to be all over the place...but can't help but think of all of these other videos when watching... Thant's just me, though. It's still a very well done job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,577 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 @DemeLarell What's with 3 consecutive mocking/disliking reactions to my posts? I really don't stand for this level of pettiness. Got a problem with me? Say it to my face. For the record, I never have and would never do something like this to you. A bit of mutual respect wouldn't go amiss. 19 hours ago, LDR said: It could be a reference to Kanye and Kim being able to step in and turn a ton of people against Taylor. The "kingdom" could be the public and the "keys" could be the control. For about a year there, Kim changed the public's reception of Taylor and Taylor was no longer in control of her image. It's not about Beyoncé. That is actually quite a good theory. Then the whole line could be about them. The entire song could be entirely aimed at Kimye, it's just that so many people lately have annoyed Taylor that I'd be surprised if she didn't bash everyone in one song. 2 hours ago, Wolf Boy said: Guuurl..... That reaction tells me nothing. Tell me what's the matter with what I said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonIsRising 2,816 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Swish Swish video >>> Look What You Make Me Do video Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said: @DemeLarell What's with 3 consecutive mocking/disliking reactions to my posts? I really don't stand for this level of pettiness. Got a problem with me? Say it to my face. For the record, I never have and would never do something like this to you. A bit of mutual respect wouldn't go amiss. That is actually quite a good theory. Then the whole line could be about them. The entire song could be entirely aimed at Kimye, it's just that so many people lately have annoyed Taylor that I'd be surprised if she didn't bash everyone in one song. That reaction tells me nothing. Tell me what's the matter with what I said. Guuurrlll. I just disagree. I can do that right? I don't have a problem with you. Chill out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,577 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, DemeLarell said: Guuurrlll. Just disagree. I can do that right? I don't have a problem with you. Chill out. Then why diss me 3 times in a row in the same thread? Once is enough. After that, it's just mean. Like I said before, I wouldn't do the same thing to you, so why are you doing it to me? Your behaviour doesn't amount to that of someone who doesn't have a problem with me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 You had 3 post I disagreed with. Nothing personal. Just difference in opinions. @StrawberryBlond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,577 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, DemeLarell said: You had 3 post I disagreed with. Nothing personal. Just difference in opinions. @StrawberryBlond Well, I don't automatically press that reaction for merely having a different opinion. I save that reaction for much worse things. Real ignorance, hate, bullying, that kinda thing. If I don't like what someone says, I just move on or quote them but I don't post negative reactions especially when I'm cool with the person. I think we need to come to a consensus on what these reactions should be used for and when because people are using them in different ways and it's coming across differently to different people. I'm one of those people who view it as an offensive put-down, just so you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaisitalian 3,573 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said: That is actually quite a good theory. Then the whole line could be about them. The entire song could be entirely aimed at Kimye, it's just that so many people lately have annoyed Taylor that I'd be surprised if she didn't bash everyone in one song. I truly think the song is aimed at Kimye and Katy. The sequence where Taylor is holding the Grammy and sitting in the crashed car has to be a dig at Katy because the resemblance of appearance is uncanny. And then the rest I think is just digs at Kimye. Overall I know it's a diss track to everyone who has ever picked on her for the things that she mocks at the end of the video, but it's definitely focused on the two famous feuds she has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 37 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: Well, I don't automatically press that reaction for merely having a different opinion. I save that reaction for much worse things. Real ignorance, hate, bullying, that kinda thing. If I don't like what someone says, I just move on or quote them but I don't post negative reactions especially when I'm cool with the person. I think we need to come to a consensus on what these reactions should be used for and when because people are using them in different ways and it's coming across differently to different people. I'm one of those people who view it as an offensive put-down, just so you know. Ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHE 562 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 hours ago, chefo said: The video somehow reminds me of so many other videos, though... For example Nelly and Fergie's Party People with the huge swing, Gaga's Fame perfume ad with the leather costume and the aligned mannequins...even the dancing part with the guys in heels somehow reminded me of the Paparazzi video, because of the atmosphere. The cage reminds me of Can't be tamed by Miley... I mean, it's a really well done video and a get the idea of it to be all over the place...but can't help but think of all of these other videos when watching... Thant's just me, though. It's still a very well done job. Agree. It's a pretty video but it gave me nothing new, just very glossy and full of nods to other more interesting videos. What makes it interesting are the clever disses but beyond that it's no Bad Romance or Grimes video. It's pretty straight forward rehash fashion and imagery wise. Doesn't make it bad just not really original. The clever bit is at the very end and I'm a bit lost about the plane. What's the relevance with that? Why a jet plane? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie 2,518 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said: That reaction tells me nothing. Tell me what's the matter with what I said. That you are trying to put two powerfull women against each other when there's not any problem. You are that poor kid spreading gossips just looking for attention. gurl Can you block someone from this site? Asking for a friend What if tomorrow I see you again? Should I say that I used to love you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Boy 3,183 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 8 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said: Well, I don't automatically press that reaction for merely having a different opinion. I save that reaction for much worse things. Real ignorance, hate, bullying, that kinda thing. If I don't like what someone says, I just move on or quote them but I don't post negative reactions especially when I'm cool with the person. I think we need to come to a consensus on what these reactions should be used for and when because people are using them in different ways and it's coming across differently to different people. I'm one of those people who view it as an offensive put-down, just so you know. You really need to take a breath. Relax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,577 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 By the way, @DemeLarell and @Whispering , you're still disliking stuff I say no matter how well-founded or understandable and it's seriously pissing me off. I've never been nasty to either of you, so why are you picking on me? Having an opinion that differs from yours is not an acceptable reason to hate on someone and if you think it is, well, you need to grow up. How do you get by in real life without outwardly telling people "excuse me no" to their faces, I wonder? I feel sorry for you that you choose to be so passive aggressive from behind a computer screen to make up for it. 11 hours ago, Eddie said: That you are trying to put two powerfull women against each other when there's not any problem. You are that poor kid spreading gossips just looking for attention. gurl Can you block someone from this site? Asking for a friend Oh, don't give me the sexist talk again. It's possible to dislike a woman for who she is, not her gender. And I don't care how powerful a woman is, she's not immune from my critique. And I'm not trying to spread any gossip, I just saw a line that conjured up a theory. Showing intelligence isn't allowed, apparently. Talk about disrespectful calling me "a poor kid" for something that simple. And yes, block me because you don't have the guts to respond to me. I've seen it before. Running away from an argument as soon as it's no longer going your way. And yet I'm the little kid? For the record, I've never blocked anyone here no matter how harsh it gets because I'm a mature adult who can take it. 5 hours ago, Wolf Boy said: You really need to take a breath. Relax. And you need to be more considerate of people's feelings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemeLarell 931 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: By the way, @DemeLarell and @Whispering , you're still disliking stuff I say no matter how well-founded or understandable and it's seriously pissing me off. I've never been nasty to either of you, so why are you picking on me? Having an opinion that differs from yours is not an acceptable reason to hate on someone and if you think it is, well, you need to grow up. How do you get by in real life without outwardly telling people "excuse me no" to their faces, I wonder? I feel sorry for you that you choose to be so passive aggressive from behind a computer screen to make up for it. Oh, don't give me the sexist talk again. It's possible to dislike a woman for who she is, not her gender. And I don't care how powerful a woman is, she's not immune from my critique. And I'm not trying to spread any gossip, I just saw a line that conjured up a theory. Showing intelligence isn't allowed, apparently. Talk about disrespectful calling me "a poor kid" for something that simple. And yes, block me because you don't have the guts to respond to me. I've seen it before. Running away from an argument as soon as it's no longer going your way. And yet I'm the little kid? For the record, I've never blocked anyone here no matter how harsh it gets because I'm a mature adult who can take it. And you need to be more considerate of people's feelings. Chill out. 1. I excuse me no ppl all the time and you are the only one that gets upset. I don't even get upset because people disagree. It's a lot simpler than just quoting and saying "I disagree " or "excuse me no". And as long as I disagree I will press that button l. No disrespect. No harm. I just disagree. I'm sorry you feel that way but I'm not quoting when all I have to say is I disagree. Edit: I tell people excuse me no all the time in real life. But it's jargon so no one gets offended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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