lost in limbo 6,035 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 minute ago, KingOfTheClouds said: funny, she doesnt have dissociation or PTSD on stage but when it comes to fans it all comes crashing in? Lol. And @Letmelivemylife says how she's always so gr8 and amazing and loves us with all her might. I never really bought that in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I was never a stan to begin with or really followed her because of her so called love for fans. It was mostly just her music and how gr8 she is live. You basically just accused her of faking PTSD indirectly and discredited her love for her fans... Remember me why are you on this forum? this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan 0 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, Eclipsa said: You basically just accused her of faking PTSD indirectly and discredited her love for her fans... Remember me why are you on this forum? B/c no one really loves their fans that much. I mean if I was famous I'd appreciate them but how can you love someone you don't know? And I'm allowed to be on any forum I wan to be on. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, KingOfTheClouds said: B/c no one really loves their fans that much. I mean if I was famous I'd appreciate them but how can you love someone you don't know? And I'm allowed to be on any forum I wan to be on. Thanks. Gaga already explained a thousand times why she loves us and we have a connection, I'm not going explain it for the thousand time for someone who doesn't get it. Honestly, you sound like every non-fan who doesn't understand the connection between her and us. this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 77,504 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 52 minutes ago, androiduser said: I understand that she may not be able to do intimate friendly pics like she used to, but it doesn't explain the high price. Sure, if fans are willing to pay, it's their right, but I don't think there's a way to spin the high price into something positive, or worthy of consideration. I highly doubt that was her decision. It was probably her team or management, that's not Gaga's fault. OT: This is my first time reading this letter in full, and it's so heartbreaking. She's been through a lot, and she even explains that the little things make her uneasy, so it's not like she's consciously just like, "Okay, let's just get this sh*t over with," I swear, some of you guys are making it sound like that. You make it seem like she's in another f*cking dimension when taking pictures. First of all, they're f*cking pictures, so what. Funny how people are pointing to the pictures like, "See! She doesn't love us the way she used to! She's not the same person anymore!", yet in the show she's constantly expressing her love for us. I swear, some of you guys who think that are being hyper judgmental and just straight up rude. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔲𝔰𝔦𝔠'𝔰 𝔤𝔬𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔟𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢 𝔟𝔞𝔠𝔨 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan 0 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Eclipsa said: Gaga already explained a thousand times why she loves us and we have a connection, I'm not going explain it for the thousand time for someone who doesn't get it. Honestly, you sound like every non-fan who doesn't understand the connection between her and us. Mess I find the whole "stan" of artist thing ridiculous. I don't stan anyone. I don't think of these people as God's or Goddesss's. I look up to my mom and dad as figures of people I want to be, not pop stars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, KingOfTheClouds said: Mess I find the whole "stan" of artist thing ridiculous. I don't stan anyone. I don't think of these people as God's or Goddesss's. I look up to my mom and dad as figures of people I want to be, not false idols. As if anyone is looking up to her as a Goddess for the love of God I look to her up as an inspiration, a second mother tbqh. If you don't understand it, don't talk about it. It just makes you seem ignorant in front of those who understand it. this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1trus 4,341 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Little meltdowners don't deserve Gaga. Go stan Kety or other else ι'м ρυℓℓιηg үσυя sтяιηgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 minute ago, T3rrorBlade said: Little meltdowners don't deserve Gaga. Go stan Kety or other else Honestly Katy is sooooo much worse this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letmelivemylife 8,715 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Even as someone who thinks everyday should be free hug day and craves being snuggled up against a warm body, I totally get what she's saying. As much as I love hugs, there's some days where it's like "I love you but just let me breathe". She should have the freedom to say "i love you so very much but I'd rather you not hug me because I need some space". Doesn't mean she doesn't love us anymore. It just means that she needs space. We need to remember that she can't be there for us if she herself is struggling I love you monsters. I'd be unfixably broken without you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan 0 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Eclipsa said: As if anyone is looking up to her as a Goddess for the love of God I look to her up as an inspiration, a second mother tbqh. If you don't understand it, don't talk about it. It just makes you seem ignorant in front of those who understand it. Like I said in the first place, I never considered myself a stan or that connection monsters seem to have w her. Maybe I don't get why u all do. But I don't. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, Letmelivemylife said: Even as someone who thinks everyday should be free hug day and craves being snuggled up against a warm body, I totally get what she's saying. As much as I love hugs, there's some days where it's like "I love you but just let me breathe". She should have the freedom to say "i love you so very much but I'd rather you not hug me because I need some space". Doesn't mean she doesn't love us anymore. It just means that she needs space. We need to remember that she can't be there for us if she herself is struggling You're such a cutie this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KleinGa 18,177 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, M Monstre said: She's not the same person anymore!" they're right though. She's not the same person. Even she herself said it. She wouldn't do certain things she did before because of the PTSD. Fans pointed it out, although they didn't know the reason and were unnecessarily mean to her but they were ignorant of the situation. Thank God for this thread explaining it all. Although I really wish she'd go back to the way things were, that would be wishing that things that happened to her never did. I really hate to see her hurt and in this much pain. That's why I would forever be grateful to Mr. Tony Bennett, who helped heal her with music. I'm grateful that she has finally come to a mature place in her life. It hurts that things will never be the same but what's important to me is that: she's making music, making her art and having a healthy, happy life. Those are the things that should be important to each and every "stan", so realise that the only way for her to be healthy and happy is for things to be the way they are now and accept that. At the end of the day, she still loves us, just that she's grown up a bit. I know that because I grew up along with her and watched myself AND her change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in limbo 6,035 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 minute ago, KingOfTheClouds said: Like I said in the first place, I never considered myself a stan or that connection monsters seem to have w her. Maybe I don't get why u all do. But I don't. Sorry. It's fine. Just don't acuse the relation to be fake and say that she's faking her PTSD you know, it's pretty offensive to us Have a nice day regardless this is the state of grace, this is the worthwhile fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letmelivemylife 8,715 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Eclipsa said: As if anyone is looking up to her as a Goddess for the love of God I look to her up as an inspiration, a second mother tbqh. If you don't understand it, don't talk about it. It just makes you seem ignorant in front of those who understand it. Exactly. My bio mom wasn't ever there and I spent my whole life searching for a replacement and gaga just happened to be that replacement. Some may call my devotion creepy but until they've walked a mile in my shoes, they shouldn't judge I love you monsters. I'd be unfixably broken without you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 77,504 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, KleinGa said: they're right though. She's not the same person. Even she herself said it. She wouldn't do certain things she did before because of the PTSD. Fans pointed it out, although they didn't know the reason and were unnecessarily mean to her but they were ignorant of the situation. Thank God for this thread explaining it all. Although I really wish she'd go back to the way things were, that would be wishing that things that happened to her never happen. I really hate to see her hurt and in this much pain. That's why I would forever be grateful to Mr. Tony Bennett, who helped heal her with music. I'm grateful that she has finally come to a mature place in her life. It hurts that things will never be the same but what's important to me is that: she's making music, making her art and having a healthy, happy life. Those are the things that should be important to each and every "stan", so realise that the only way for her to be healthy and happy is for things to be the way they are now and accept that. At the end of the day, she still loves us, just that she's grown up a bit. I know that because I grew up along with her and watched myself AND her change. What I meant was that her love and her passion and drive hasn't changed. Yes, there was a dark moment in her life where she didn't want to do music, and again, thank you for Tony, but she still loves and enjoys music and she still loves us, that's what I meant. Yes, she's not the exact same person as she was back then, no one is, and it's unrealistic to expect that she will be, but her love for music and her fans is something that will never change. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔲𝔰𝔦𝔠'𝔰 𝔤𝔬𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔟𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢 𝔟𝔞𝔠𝔨 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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