Back to the forums, no longer a Gaga fan and why

[ChicaSkas 22,945]

Just now, Swine said:

BloodyHooker. I know you, cutie you're a collector, just like me.

oh HECK YES I REMEMBER YOU NOW

NO ONE SHOULD CHANGE USERNAMES LOL  

it screws up my memory 

[Killa 17,458]

I am so here with you on this

Though last night i had yet another monster moment, i watched the entire canadian show and i felt like a fan again.

what keeps me following her is faith that she'll calm down and figure out a way to make sense again and put something together that works for her

The tour made me think she really needed a whole new year to work on her album and overall project. She'll never have quality by vomiting ideas. They need to be marinated and digested.

 

[Kattys 4,319]

The biggest problem I have with Joanne is that she was constantly mentioning that this album will be very relatable to normal people (I mean us), down to earth, we can relate, blah blah but it came out that album is not relatable at all and it isn't made for people, it's made for her. I don't have a problem with that, after all, all of her music is hers if you know what I mean. It's just that it lacks emotion for me (and for her can be a life-changing experience), while to me gets boring sometimes. And I'm not a fan of just dance-electro and pop tbh.

[Teenage 4]

its okay everyone have different opinion thats all in my case i love Joanne because its like we can see whats going on with gaga and for once its like seein gaga as gaga without the amazing costume. i love her even without the costumes and such, her music even more

[Swine 504]

1 hour ago, Kattys said:

The biggest problem I have with Joanne is that she was constantly mentioning that this album will be very relatable to normal people (I mean us), down to earth, we can relate, blah blah but it came out that album is not relatable at all and it isn't made for people, it's made for her. I don't have a problem with that, after all, all of her music is hers if you know what I mean. It's just that it lacks emotion for me (and for her can be a life-changing experience), while to me gets boring sometimes. And I'm not a fan of just dance-electro and pop tbh.

Me too. I was a metal lover before Gaga, and still am. She had the ability to bring people from different genres together. 

[Tan Fei 1,324]

1 hour ago, Teenage said:

its okay everyone have different opinion thats all in my case i love Joanne because its like we can see whats going on with gaga and for once its like seein gaga as gaga without the amazing costume. i love her even without the costumes and such, her music even more

yea i love her without the exaggerated costumes n props and  i love joanne too

[getto 1,552]

15 hours ago, Whispering said:

That wouldn't make any sense.

It's not country. 

Think about it though, It would be the best album ever!

[Goddess 152]

This is what really piss me off. She says that the album is for aunt but a song about masturbation? in album for your dead aunt?

[giskardsb 12,565]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

This is what really piss me off. She says that the album is for aunt but a song about masturbation? in album for your dead aunt?

you guys are trying way too hard to make this an issue.

The album is about about Family, relationships, loneliness, loss, life, and need.  DIC is about loneliness and need.  This is not a hard concept.

 

[Miel 15,009]

Being a fan for years, and being on here since 2010, I definitely see what OP means by there being a shift in the dynamics of this fandom.

Even outside of how the rest of the world perceived and critiqued Gaga, it's no denying she had a different drive about 5 to 8 years ago. She's still the same girl, same musician, but things have changed. For the better? For her, I assume so, which is what matters.

But it really is different. I remember the summer of 2011, and I would come home from hanging out with my hoodrat friends, and see that she had three or four different looks that day, with three or four different performances somewhere throughout the world.

Of course it was exciting and exhilarating as a fan, but in retrospect it wasn't sustainable for Gaga as a person, which I respect. I mean, girl broke her hip.

I love Joanne, and it is slowly becoming my favorite album of hers. But it's a little challenging as somebody who became a fan when she was hungry and passionate and eager to change the world (and actually kind of did, even if for a little bit). It's understandable, and I respect her being a little more cautious and weary and distant, considering the last few years. I just miss the mania, you know? I mean, the public is in love with her now more than ever, the most in like six years, so the mania is kind of present. It's just that she doesn't love the public as much back- and she has every right to not love them back.

Whatever whatever I'm rambling. @Swine did you have a different username before?

[Swine 504]

36 minutes ago, Miel said:

Being a fan for years, and being on here since 2010, I definitely see what OP means by there being a shift in the dynamics of this fandom.

Even outside of how the rest of the world perceived and critiqued Gaga, it's no denying she had a different drive about 5 to 8 years ago. She's still the same girl, same musician, but things have changed. For the better? For her, I assume so, which is what matters.

But it really is different. I remember the summer of 2011, and I would come home from hanging out with my hoodrat friends, and see that she had three or four different looks that day, with three or four different performances somewhere throughout the world.

Of course it was exciting and exhilarating as a fan, but in retrospect it wasn't sustainable for Gaga as a person, which I respect. I mean, girl broke her hip.

I love Joanne, and it is slowly becoming my favorite album of hers. But it's a little challenging as somebody who became a fan when she was hungry and passionate and eager to change the world (and actually kind of did, even if for a little bit). It's understandable, and I respect her being a little more cautious and weary and distant, considering the last few years. I just miss the mania, you know? I mean, the public is in love with her now more than ever, the most in like six years, so the mania is kind of present. It's just that she doesn't love the public as much back- and she has every right to not love them back.

Whatever whatever I'm rambling. @Swine did you have a different username before?

Maybe she's not getting as much negative press as she used to, and to a good amount of people she has earned her spot among the pop classics, but the spotlight is no longer on her. Maybe it seems like she gets more love now, but that's because she gets less hate. She is not seen as a big target anymore. And that results in less hate, but also in less passionate fans like we were back then, in my opinion.

Yes, babe. I was BloodyHooker  I remember you.

[Swine 504]

1 hour ago, giskardsb said:

you guys are trying way too hard to make this an issue.

The album is about about Family, relationships, loneliness, loss, life, and need.  DIC is about loneliness and need.  This is not a hard concept.

 

Losing friends, go-go dancing, losing family, masturbation, feeling lonely, racism, moving forward, break up. What does these themes have in common, especially in the order they are presented in the album? Not much, in my opinion.

[leecy 1,476]

On 2017/8/3 at 7:53 PM, Swine said:

Hey everyone 

 

So yesterday I came back to Gagadaily to check some news about the tour, and I found myself missing the forum and you guys. A few years have passed  I probably don't even recognize most of you. But anyway, hey cuties. So yes, I am just going to write a lot of stuff that has happened, because it kind of saddens me, but this is not coming from a place of hate, so don't come for me, I'm very neutral at this point, when it comes to Gaga. I truly hope you guys don't think like: "yeah another bashing thread, nobody cares, leave her alone", this is not that, I'm just sharing what I feel after not being in the fanbase for some time now. Sorry if I make mistakes. I'm Portuguese, I've moved to Sweden to work as a dentist, learned Swedish and I am currently studying Norwegian, so my English became way worse than it was.

 

I found myself in the middle of the forums thinking: wow, things have changed quite a lot since my times here. I had the feeling the fanbase was not even the same. So I wondered if what happened to me, happened to most of the people that were here from the beginning.

I was (?) a Gaga fan since 2009/2010. And what a time to be a Gaga fan, tbh. We had new photos and outfits every other day, new shows, new interviews, new photoshoots, unreleased material. Like it was truly amazing, there was stuff being released almost all the time. I remember very well the promotional campaign for Born This Way. The wait for the album, when it leaked 1 week before the release and still managed to sell 1.2 million copies, the iconic cover that everybody hates. It was so prolific. It was almost too much, but everyone loved it. Then came ARTPOP, a complete turn in terms of sound, but still Gaga. Visuals, outfits, probably the best tour of her life. Even though it had some bumps here and there, it was still a pleasant ride, and while I feel sorry for Gaga (because of management issues), I still think she got a lot of nerve and drive out of it, so it made the Era even more special.

But mostly, what made Gaga stand out back then was her insane drive and will to change the game. Not just pop music, but the world. She was so "preachy" and so secure of her art back then. And the b*tch always had her talent to back it up. She didn't need to rub in everyone's face that she could sing or play the piano by releasing an acoustic album: she simply did it while playing pop music. She combined both worlds so well, it was truly amazing. And that was what made me stay, and come back to the forums everyday.

Then came Joanne. Truth be told, I was expecting a less abrasive album with happier lyrics. I was here for it. It was a side from Gaga that we still didn't know quite well. But everyone still expected a message through the album that she would repeat over and over in her interviews. Everyone expected a new sound, something different for her that proved her versatility, but still risky and fresh. Everyone expected new outfits. Maybe not as extravagant, because everyone was kind of over it, but maybe something a little less "too much", more relaxed and stripped down, but still Gaga, still conveying a message, still on brand, still polished.

And we got nothing like that. To me, Joanne is an album with barely no message (yeah, an homage to her aunt, but with songs about masturbation and guys in the middle). It didn't sound very fresh to me, and country sounded like a huge risk when it comes to every other market outside the US (maybe that's why I didn't like it). There were almost no interviews and no performances. No message at all. The promotional campaign was almost inexistent. There was nothing to follow or to discuss, really. So why stay around? Why follow someone who didn't impress me or represent me as much as she used to, at least during this fase of her career? The drive and the nerve didn't seem to be there anymore. I still appreciate a lot everything she did in the past. I have all the respect for that. But it feels like she wants to step back a little, like she wants to be more subtle and have a calmer life. And I can't blame her for it. But she can't blame me for not wanting to follow that anymore, or any other fan that does the same. In the words of wisdom by Tatianna: "Choices". Back then I thought like: "I would NEVER, EVER leave her, she represents everything that I want to be, she is fierce, she goes against everyone and she is not apologetic about it". Now it just feels sad, because that deep love for her that I had disappeared. Like now I have the money to buy the backstage pack, and I'm like: "yeah no, not now... If it was back in the BTW/ARTPOP Era, for sure, but not now". And I hope she proves me wrong in the future. I'm not salty about not loving Joanne, I knew someday there would come an album that I would like less (or not at all). I'm still here for her, anyway. Maybe not following every step, but still praying for that metal album.

you expressed so much better than I did, I got only 3 paws up when I complaint that she shows-off too much vocals lately, and loses her creativity

Just in case you want to see what I said
http://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/239327-am-i-the-only-one-who-doesnt-like-that-gaga/

[Sailor 3,321]

Personally, I have the same kind of feelings towards Gaga that I do towards David Bowie. I'd still love and follow them regardless of if they never sang again.

But I understand. Joanne has been a strange era, which is strange for a Gaga fan to say!

[Whispering 18,865]

1 hour ago, Swine said:

Losing friends, go-go dancing, losing family, masturbation, feeling lonely, racism, moving forward, break up. What does these themes have in common, especially in the order they are presented in the album? Not much, in my opinion.

They are about Gaga's life and things that have happened in her life and affected her deeply in the past few years.