Arcanum 5,150 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 A comment about the sceptics: I can't help but wonder: All of you saying that JWT was not cohesive and conceptual. The original theme according to the album was pink hats, cowboys and vintage cars. Would you prefer a retro tour with no stage, no choreography etc. instead of what is being offered? Because if you want a theme you have to stick into the initial plan. That was Joanne in the first place. Would u be fine with a far west girly concept or would you still melt down over it the way you jujubrutsu now? Just sayin'.... I Wantth your Love...I Wantth your Love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardevoir 9,816 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 How can anyone complain about this piece of amazingness? Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchyguy 249 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Joe N said: Yes and sometimes these little details sum up to a point where a show with potential is not as good anymore cause the negative points, overweigh the good points. An artist alone can't carry a flawed show. What made Gaga so great in the first place was how visionary and exciting her performances were. The storytelling during the MB, the fashion, the concepts...all of that has been lacking as of late and it's disappointing for a lot of fans. I agree.. I mean remember how epic it the ending of Paparazzi was during the TMB? Where she told everybody to follow their dreams while shooting fireworks out of her bra to a huge sea monster... The stage looks much more expensive and modern than artRaves! The show just misses that Gaga touch.. it could easily have been a Rihanna or Britney show (including outfits). Overall there are a lot of good points (stage, lights, interludes, vocals). Hopefully there will be some changes, especially the opening with just a clock and no hype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe N 60 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Arcanum said: A comment about the sceptics: I can't help but wonder: All of you saying that JWT was not cohesive and conceptual. The original theme according to the album was pink hats, cowboys and vintage cars. Would you prefer a retro tour with no stage, no choreography etc. instead of what is being offered? Because if you want a theme you have to stick into the initial plan. That was Joanne in the first place. Would u be fine with a far west girly concept or would you still melt down over it the way you jujubrutsu now? Just sayin'.... Should I post my concept for this tour? It goes along with the "Joanne" persona but isn't a campfire Dive bar tour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant 20,281 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Arcanum said: A comment about the sceptics: I can't help but wonder: All of you saying that JWT was not cohesive and conceptual. The original theme according to the album was pink hats, cowboys and vintage cars. Would you prefer a retro tour with no stage, no choreography etc. instead of what is being offered? Because if you want a theme you have to stick into the initial plan. That was Joanne in the first place. Would u be fine with a far west girly concept or would you still melt down over it the way you jujubrutsu now? Just sayin'.... I don't understand what you're getting on here Just because it wasn't a far west girly concept, doesn't mean the show was not cohesive and conceptual. 광야로 걸어가 알아 네 home ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco 3,040 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Joe N said: Should I post my concept for this tour? It goes along with the "Joanne" persona but isn't a campfire Dive bar tour. No. We dont care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronyoji 2,054 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 i see so many complaints about a lack of theme, its nauseating. its a very consistent show in its visuals, in that they're kind of ironic and self referential but not in attempts to glorify them, but kind of satirize herself all while still being a little out there yet refined?? i don't get why there needs to be a storyline and cringe worthy acting and dialogue like its a low budget broadway show. the theme is in its subtlety, its almost like a gaga retrospective done right, total opposite of the artrave (which i still loved/saw live). edit: i need to add: her vocals are fantastic throughout. so controlled, i mean that is CONTROL. like i don't think you guys understand lol. also her whole set/costume idea during come to mama/applause is amazing. i love the kitschy flower theme, so 70s. very mary blair esque a la disneyland during applause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
re di tutto 924 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 The stage is magnificent, her best stage alongside the Born This Way Ball stage. And the show itself is spectacular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanum 5,150 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Irrelevant said: I don't understand what you're getting on here Just because it wasn't a far west girly concept, doesn't mean the show was not cohesive and conceptual. Stay with me. Some people complained about the lack of cohesion between the tracks earlier and the lack of a bonding theme in between like MB or BTWB. I am saying that if a concept would be around it would have to do with the "stripped" Gaga persona aka Joanne. So would all those who complain be satisfied? I Wantth your Love...I Wantth your Love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant 20,281 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Arcanum said: Stay with me. Some people complained about the lack of cohesion between the tracks earlier and the lack of a bonding theme in between like MB or BTWB. I am saying that if a concept would be around it would have to do with the "stripped" Gaga persona aka Joanne. So would all those who complain be satisfied? oh ok sry I misunderstood your first comment. Well I wouldn't mind if it surrounded Gaga's life, but how can you make a storyline surrounding Joanne But if it did happen, GGD would meltdown so hard lmao 광야로 걸어가 알아 네 home ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe N 60 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, Paco said: No. We dont care. Well, too bad. You're missing out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernEcstasy 8,953 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 So, can anybody tell me where the best place for GA to stand would be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronyoji 2,054 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 i honestly think if gaga did every little concept and storyline and performance you guys could come up with it'd be a campy ass mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe N 60 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 @JoanneMonster I'm still waiting for that quote from the post where I claimed "I could do it better". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaky Oliver 22,040 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Hey guys someone please quote me with the full setlist! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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