Antonio 27,737 Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 [#10] To Have And Not To Hold [Score] 8.117 [High Scores] @RAMROD @Peto 11 [Low Scores] @KingOfTheClouds 4 - - - - - ◆ - - - - - [ Antonio's Remark ] The second weakest track on Ray Of Light in my opinion, especially after the masterpieces that are Frozen and The Power Of Good-Bye, in my opinion this track just doesn't match up, maybe it would've worked better with a different placement on the album, but everything aside, To Have And Not To Hold is still a very strong track. [My Score] 8 - - - - - ◆ - - - - - [ Chart Run ] #8 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - - - - - ◆ - - - - - [ Commentary ] above 5 Hide contents @Sam Dey (10) "THIS SONG!! THIS SONG RIGHT HERE!! this song is so mysteriously beautiful. It's extremely hard choosing between this song and nothing really matters as my favourite because oh lord. This song I think is about the desire to be with a person but not being able to. The part that I find mysterious and gives me goosebumps is the part where she sings mantra in the background and hums. I've tried to look for the exact lyrics of the mantra but was never able to find them. This song is extremely special to me because I played it on repeat when I was going through a very spiritual phase in my life. So every time listen to it I think about that time." @monsterdino (9) "This track has one of the best pop melodies ever, Madonna is a very brilliant pop melodist and lyricist. A truly bitter-sweet song where Madonna talks about an empty love, similiar to what she talked about on "Skin" and on "The Power Of Good-Bye" where she wants to truly feel the love, even though they are both aware that this relationship is not meant to be serious. Madonna's awerness of this is slowly killing her because she wants to be in a serious relationship with this person and she knows that this is wrong but she can't help it "Only I am to blame...What can I do?", Madonna feels as she is "walking on a wire" but he won't be there to catch her as she falls. You can also hear Madonna chanting peices from "Shanti/Ashtangi" wich gives it another "mysterious" dimension to the song." @juju (10) "One underrated gem of Madonna's discography, this song teleports me to an isle far at the edges of the Earth. The bossa nova influences encapsulate the album's vulnerability, and the backing hum vocals are the most soothing musical moment to be found on this eclectic and timeless record." @Thomas P (9) "I love her vocals here so much!!!" @DeanWinchester (9) "Lyrically and thematically a continuation of The Power of Good-Bye, Madonna now reflects on how the love she let go was something that she has, perhaps in memory, but something she can never keep. It's the mellow reminiscing with a hint of self-blame. Not as powerful as the previous track (which speaks more to the strength of the previous song and less about the weakness of this one), but nonetheless an important message as well." @Maleficent (9) "the perfect follow-up to TPOGB, similar themes." @MonsterJames333 (9) "Have and Not To Hold took time to grow on me and since has become a favorite. It's simply beautiful. Listen out for the refrain of a previous song here." @Uncle ARTPOP (9) "Beyond the realization there is still feeling inside of yourself so you fold, you press on there's a strength in this song but a real melancholic attitude, Perfect execution." @KING ELIZABITCH (9) "An odd to the joy and sadness of love. Really love it." @Johny Wayne (8.75) "This song is perfection from beggining to end. The very first major chord followd directly by the minor shift just makes me melt everytime. This is with no doubt the best ballad on this album. You can fall asleep to it and I mean that in the best way possible, it’s like you become a baby again and you’re in your mother’s arms being rocked and you can hear her heartbeat. The little tropical “Paparapapa” are so beautiful. “Like a moth to a flame, only I am to blame”. I love this line. I think this is the best song to listen to when you have an uncorresponded love as it brings you some sort of comfort and peace." @shoful (8) "Beautifully done song. Not much to say more about it. Its probably my least favorite on the album, but its very well done so I cannot put it below an 8. The metaphors in this song are very well written and pretty genius if you think about them." @Antichrist (8) "''Your eyes, they go right through And yet you never do Anything to make me want to stay'' this is the song i usually mostly skip as it requires (for me) to be in a specific state of mind, though the harmony of this song is spectacular!" @LoisLilMonster (6.5) "I mean, it's a cute song. I'm just not so much into it. I do love the 'paparapapapa's tho." 5 and below Hide contents @TheShameMonster (5) "Pretty bland and the beat goes nowhere; the notes merely hover around three notes. Worst song on the album. Next." @DontDoubtDavid (5) "Soothing and chill, but meh." @MAC (5) "I do like the song (there are no bad songs on this album) but it is quite boring as it goes on. Another one that I am not excited to go back and listen to. A nice calming song though." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juju 18,907 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just now, Creyk said: Antonio needs to post the results faster This is not the top 5 yet for all this suspense Dragging us along smh ❤ x ❤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Skin needs to go Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio 27,737 Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Creyk said: Antonio needs to post the results faster This is not the top 5 yet for all this suspense i was waiting for the new page i didn't want the result at the end of a page Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juju 18,907 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just now, Antonio said: [#10] To Have And Not To Hold [Score] 8.117 [High Scores] @RAMROD @Peto 11 [Low Scores] @KingOfTheClouds 4 - - - - - ◆ - - - - - [ Antonio's Remark ] The second weakest track on Ray Of Light in my opinion, especially after the masterpieces that are Frozen and The Power Of Good-Bye, in my opinion this track just doesn't match up, maybe it would've worked better with a different placement on the album, but everything aside, To Have And Not To Hold is still a very strong track. [My Score] 8 - - - - - ◆ - - - - - [ Chart Run ] #8 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - - - - - ◆ - - - - - [ Commentary ] above 5 Reveal hidden contents @Sam Dey (10) "THIS SONG!! THIS SONG RIGHT HERE!! this song is so mysteriously beautiful. It's extremely hard choosing between this song and nothing really matters as my favourite because oh lord. This song I think is about the desire to be with a person but not being able to. The part that I find mysterious and gives me goosebumps is the part where she sings mantra in the background and hums. I've tried to look for the exact lyrics of the mantra but was never able to find them. This song is extremely special to me because I played it on repeat when I was going through a very spiritual phase in my life. So every time listen to it I think about that time." @monsterdino (9) "This track has one of the best pop melodies ever, Madonna is a very brilliant pop melodist and lyricist. A truly bitter-sweet song where Madonna talks about an empty love, similiar to what she talked about on "Skin" and on "The Power Of Good-Bye" where she wants to truly feel the love, even though they are both aware that this relationship is not meant to be serious. Madonna's awerness of this is slowly killing her because she wants to be in a serious relationship with this person and she knows that this is wrong but she can't help it "Only I am to blame...What can I do?", Madonna feels as she is "walking on a wire" but he won't be there to catch her as she falls. You can also hear Madonna chanting peices from "Shanti/Ashtangi" wich gives it another "mysterious" dimension to the song." @juju (10) "One underrated gem of Madonna's discography, this song teleports me to an isle far at the edges of the Earth. The bossa nova influences encapsulate the album's vulnerability, and the backing hum vocals are the most soothing musical moment to be found on this eclectic and timeless record." @Thomas P (9) "I love her vocals here so much!!!" @DeanWinchester (9) "Lyrically and thematically a continuation of The Power of Good-Bye, Madonna now reflects on how the love she let go was something that she has, perhaps in memory, but something she can never keep. It's the mellow reminiscing with a hint of self-blame. Not as powerful as the previous track (which speaks more to the strength of the previous song and less about the weakness of this one), but nonetheless an important message as well." @Maleficent (9) "the perfect follow-up to TPOGB, similar themes." @MonsterJames333 (9) "Have and Not To Hold took time to grow on me and since has become a favorite. It's simply beautiful. Listen out for the refrain of a previous song here." @Uncle ARTPOP (9) "Beyond the realization there is still feeling inside of yourself so you fold, you press on there's a strength in this song but a real melancholic attitude, Perfect execution." @KING ELIZABITCH (9) "An odd to the joy and sadness of love. Really love it." @Johny Wayne (8.75) "This song is perfection from beggining to end. The very first major chord followd directly by the minor shift just makes me melt everytime. This is with no doubt the best ballad on this album. You can fall asleep to it and I mean that in the best way possible, it’s like you become a baby again and you’re in your mother’s arms being rocked and you can hear her heartbeat. The little tropical “Paparapapa” are so beautiful. “Like a moth to a flame, only I am to blame”. I love this line. I think this is the best song to listen to when you have an uncorresponded love as it brings you some sort of comfort and peace." @shoful (8) "Beautifully done song. Not much to say more about it. Its probably my least favorite on the album, but its very well done so I cannot put it below an 8. The metaphors in this song are very well written and pretty genius if you think about them." @Antichrist (8) "''Your eyes, they go right through And yet you never do Anything to make me want to stay'' this is the song i usually mostly skip as it requires (for me) to be in a specific state of mind, though the harmony of this song is spectacular!" @LoisLilMonster (6.5) "I mean, it's a cute song. I'm just not so much into it. I do love the 'paparapapapa's tho." 5 and below Reveal hidden contents @TheShameMonster (5) "Pretty bland and the beat goes nowhere; the notes merely hover around three notes. Worst song on the album. Next." @DontDoubtDavid (5) "Soothing and chill, but meh." @MAC (5) "I do like the song (there are no bad songs on this album) but it is quite boring as it goes on. Another one that I am not excited to go back and listen to. A nice calming song though." ❤ x ❤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,805 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 What a shame. To Have and not to hold is one of her best songs ever. Even better than Born This Way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just now, Antonio said: [#10] To Have And Not To Hold [Score] 8.117 GGD coming through with its usual flop taste Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan 0 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Slow down im only on page 8 i Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist 9,818 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 CPG at #12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHS 4,714 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Antonio said: [#10] To Have And Not To Hold [Score] 8.117 [High Scores] @RAMROD @Peto 11 [Low Scores] @KingOfTheClouds 4 - - - - - ◆ - - - - - [ Antonio's Remark ] The second weakest track on Ray Of Light in my opinion, especially after the masterpieces that are Frozen and The Power Of Good-Bye, in my opinion this track just doesn't match up, maybe it would've worked better with a different placement on the album, but everything aside, To Have And Not To Hold is still a very strong track. [My Score] 8 - - - - - ◆ - - - - - [ Chart Run ] #8 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - #10 - - - - - ◆ - - - - - [ Commentary ] above 5 Reveal hidden contents @Sam Dey (10) "THIS SONG!! THIS SONG RIGHT HERE!! this song is so mysteriously beautiful. It's extremely hard choosing between this song and nothing really matters as my favourite because oh lord. This song I think is about the desire to be with a person but not being able to. The part that I find mysterious and gives me goosebumps is the part where she sings mantra in the background and hums. I've tried to look for the exact lyrics of the mantra but was never able to find them. This song is extremely special to me because I played it on repeat when I was going through a very spiritual phase in my life. So every time listen to it I think about that time." @monsterdino (9) "This track has one of the best pop melodies ever, Madonna is a very brilliant pop melodist and lyricist. A truly bitter-sweet song where Madonna talks about an empty love, similiar to what she talked about on "Skin" and on "The Power Of Good-Bye" where she wants to truly feel the love, even though they are both aware that this relationship is not meant to be serious. Madonna's awerness of this is slowly killing her because she wants to be in a serious relationship with this person and she knows that this is wrong but she can't help it "Only I am to blame...What can I do?", Madonna feels as she is "walking on a wire" but he won't be there to catch her as she falls. You can also hear Madonna chanting peices from "Shanti/Ashtangi" wich gives it another "mysterious" dimension to the song." @juju (10) "One underrated gem of Madonna's discography, this song teleports me to an isle far at the edges of the Earth. The bossa nova influences encapsulate the album's vulnerability, and the backing hum vocals are the most soothing musical moment to be found on this eclectic and timeless record." @Thomas P (9) "I love her vocals here so much!!!" @DeanWinchester (9) "Lyrically and thematically a continuation of The Power of Good-Bye, Madonna now reflects on how the love she let go was something that she has, perhaps in memory, but something she can never keep. It's the mellow reminiscing with a hint of self-blame. Not as powerful as the previous track (which speaks more to the strength of the previous song and less about the weakness of this one), but nonetheless an important message as well." @Maleficent (9) "the perfect follow-up to TPOGB, similar themes." @MonsterJames333 (9) "Have and Not To Hold took time to grow on me and since has become a favorite. It's simply beautiful. Listen out for the refrain of a previous song here." @Uncle ARTPOP (9) "Beyond the realization there is still feeling inside of yourself so you fold, you press on there's a strength in this song but a real melancholic attitude, Perfect execution." @KING ELIZABITCH (9) "An odd to the joy and sadness of love. Really love it." @Johny Wayne (8.75) "This song is perfection from beggining to end. The very first major chord followd directly by the minor shift just makes me melt everytime. This is with no doubt the best ballad on this album. You can fall asleep to it and I mean that in the best way possible, it’s like you become a baby again and you’re in your mother’s arms being rocked and you can hear her heartbeat. The little tropical “Paparapapa” are so beautiful. “Like a moth to a flame, only I am to blame”. I love this line. I think this is the best song to listen to when you have an uncorresponded love as it brings you some sort of comfort and peace." @shoful (8) "Beautifully done song. Not much to say more about it. Its probably my least favorite on the album, but its very well done so I cannot put it below an 8. The metaphors in this song are very well written and pretty genius if you think about them." @Antichrist (8) "''Your eyes, they go right through And yet you never do Anything to make me want to stay'' this is the song i usually mostly skip as it requires (for me) to be in a specific state of mind, though the harmony of this song is spectacular!" @LoisLilMonster (6.5) "I mean, it's a cute song. I'm just not so much into it. I do love the 'paparapapapa's tho." 5 and below Reveal hidden contents @TheShameMonster (5) "Pretty bland and the beat goes nowhere; the notes merely hover around three notes. Worst song on the album. Next." @DontDoubtDavid (5) "Soothing and chill, but meh." @MAC (5) "I do like the song (there are no bad songs on this album) but it is quite boring as it goes on. Another one that I am not excited to go back and listen to. A nice calming song though." @Johny Wayne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
That J 12,166 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 The best ballad on the album.....gone too soon. The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than The Driver Of The Screw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
That J 12,166 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 GGD remaining notorious for their "taste". The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than The Driver Of The Screw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just now, MonsterJames333 said: The best ballad on the album.....gone too soon. i like it but not even top 3 among the ballads, sis Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHS 4,714 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, DeanWinchester said: Skin needs to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
That J 12,166 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just now, DeanWinchester said: i like it but not even top 3 among the ballads, sis You just want a fight don't you! 😉 The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than The Driver Of The Screw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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