UK Charts Discussion - Track "Applause" here!

[craig 680]

^ That combined with the recent mega-floppage of Alex Burke speaks volumes about the limited relevance of the qualities prized by talent shows (being a nice girl or boy with a nice voice).

[Smithy 2,216]

I could write an essay on my dislike for this girl but I'll keep it short.

-writes essay anyway-

[Klou 2,365]

I could write an essay on my dislike for this girl but I'll keep it short. She finished in fourth place (yes, fourth - whoever thinks fourth place will get you far as an artist in the long run is kidding themselves) on X Factor in 2010. She caused a lot of controversy during her time on the show. On the boot camp rounds, she claimed that she had added some of her own lyrics to Viva La Vida even though she just changed one word ("ringing" to "ring-a-dinging"). She was put through to the live shows, even though she gave a lackluster performance due to tonsillitus despite the fact that other girls sang better than her (her mentor liked her too much not to put her through because she's so like her in every way and she clearly thought having a mini me was a great boost for her ego). On the live shows, her voice was awful. She constantly tried to do diva warbling but couldn't do it right and the audience was meant to believe that she'd written all these raps in the songs herself when they were already existing raps from remixes and the like. Apparently, she was a bit of a wild child in the X Factor house as well, even hiding a bottle of vodka under her bed, despite being underage.

She got through the first initial live shows, but she was in the bottom two on the seventh live show. She was put through by the judges to the next round (audience votes revealed once the show was over that Cher had actually received the least public votes and would have gone out had the voting gone to deadlock). She was then voted into the bottom two again on the semi final. At every X Factor semi-final, the person with the lowest public votes always goes home automatically and there is no bottom two, but just this once the show altered the format. It was widely speculated that the producers did this in the hopes of getting Cher into the final, heightening her chances of having a successful solo album. Surprise, surprise, the judges put her through to the final (and once again, public votes revealed that Cher had indeed got the lowest amount of public votes again). At long last, she was the first to leave on the final, because it was purely public votes it was based on. So, yes, the British public had been trying to get rid of this girl for weeks but the show wouldn't let them. She then put out a crappy single called Swagger Jagger which somehow got to #1 and released an album so bad it was practically offensive. She's had no more #1 hits since then, except one top ten UK hit and one top ten hit in New Zealand. I am mystified that her single has managed to reach #51 on the Billboard 100 and I sincerely hope it doesn't continue increasing. Do not support this girl. She can't sing, her rap skills are very limited and she's completely full of herself and thinks she's so much better than she is.

That wasn't so short after all, was it? ;)

Oh wow... I'm at a loss for words lol. So basically the public doesn't like her, she's a b*tch, she rides vodka bottles, and has a sh*tty ass album? Can we ban her from the US now? :****this:

[Matthew 0]

I know this is on the wrong thread but no one answers me on the merchandise thread! Does anyone know what ADMAT mean? You can get ADMAT posters but I don't have a clue what it means..

[Jase 12,118]

-writes essay anyway-

Gotta love our Rach :flutter:

[StrawberryBlond 13,318]

Oh wow... I'm at a loss for words lol. So basically the public doesn't like her, she's a b*tch, she rides vodka bottles, and has a sh*tty ass album? Can we ban her from the US now? :****this:

I just have to hope America spits her out. It's her dream to do a duet with Nicki Minaj. If that happens, she'll be insufferable. Check out the US version of the music video she made for her US lead single. It kinda reminds me of Kesha's Tik Tok, except not ironic.

Gotta love our Rach

Aw, glad you appreciate my rambling! It's not like I intend to do it, I just seem to get carried away!

By the way, Jase, are you going to start posting album sales again?

[Klou 2,365]

I just have to hope America spits her out. It's her dream to do a duet with Nicki Minaj. If that happens, she'll be insufferable. Check out the US version of the music video she made for her US lead single. It kinda reminds me of Kesha's Tik Tok, except not ironic. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=LPgvNlrBfb0

By the way, Jase, are you going to start posting album sales again?

I took a nap and dreamed that I met her and she was a complete b*tch. I'm already having nightmares!

[Jase 12,118]

I just have to hope America spits her out. It's her dream to do a duet with Nicki Minaj. If that happens, she'll be insufferable. Check out the US version of the music video she made for her US lead single. It kinda reminds me of Kesha's Tik Tok, except not ironic. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=LPgvNlrBfb0

Aw, glad you appreciate my rambling! It's not like I intend to do it, I just seem to get carried away!

By the way, Jase, are you going to start posting album sales again?

Yup, here are the latest. Top 50 (YTD) will be available from tomorrow

Last weeks album sales

1 Linkin Park 41,526

2 Maroon 5 38,717

3 Ed Sheeran 14,385

4 Justin Bieber 13,439 (51,554)

5 Emeli Sande 13,395

6 Cheryl 13,100 (48,034)

7 Jay-Z & Kanye West 11,902 (218,084)

8 Flo Rida 11,383

9 Rihanna 10,946 (857,614)

10 Paloma Faith 9,827 (87,583)

11 Amy MacDonald 8,869 (40,901)

15 Adele 7,759 (4,368,943)

20 Nicki Minaj 5,790

27 Ginger Wildheart 4,718

29 Netsky 4,316

36 Levellers 3,835

43 Offspring 3,452

51 Metric 2,914

53 Gojira 2,684

63 Jedward 2,241

YTD Singles

1 - 1,126,200 - Gotye ft Kimbra - Somebody That I Used To Know

2 - 847,600 - Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe

3 - 786,000 - David Guetta ft Sia - Titanium

4 - 677,600 - Nicki Minaj - Starships

5 - 666,600 - Fun ft Janelle Monae - We Are Young

6 - 663,400 - Jessie J - Domino

7 - 629,400 - Flo Rida ft Sia - Wild Ones

8 - 526,400 - Emeli Sande - Next To Me

9 - 486,200 - Rizzle Kicks - Mama Do The Hump

10 - 416,000 - DJ Fresh ft Rita Ora - Hot Right Now

11 - 392,800 - Alex Clare - Too Close

12 - 368,800 - David Guetta ft Nicki Minaj - Turn Me On

13 - 367,000 - Kelly Clarkson - Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)

14 - 360,000 - Sean Paul - She Doesn't Mind

15 - 336,600 - LMFAO - Sexy & I Know It

16 - 331,200 - Flo Rida - Good Feeling

17 - 330,800 - Tulisa - Young

18 - 322,200 - Rita Ora ft Tinie Tempah - R.I.P.

19 - 321,800 - Train - Drive By

20 - 297,000 - Flo Rida - Whistle

YTD Albums

1 - 596,000 - Adele - 21

2 - 532,000 - Emeli Sande - Our Version Of Events

3 - 484,400 - Lana Del Rey - Born To Die

4 - 447,200 - Ed Sheeran - +

5 - 312,000 - Coldplay - Mylo Xyloto

6 - 271,200 - Jessie J - Who You Are

7 - 246,600 - David Guetta - Nothing But The Beat

8 - 216,200 - Bruno Mars - Doo-Wops & Hooligans

9 - 209,200 - Olly Murs - In Case You Didn't Know

10 - 201,400 - Rihanna - Talk That Talk

11 - 200,200 - Gotye - Making Mirrors

12 - 191,000 - Military Wives - In My Dreams

13 - 183,000 - Rizzle Kicks - Stereo Typical

14 - 179,200 - Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball

15 - 174,800 - Adele - 19

16 - 170,400 - One Direction - Up All Night

17 - 167,800 - Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds - Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds

18 - 167,400 - Maverick Sabre - Lonely Are The Brave

19 - 162,400 - Gary Barlow - Sing

20 - 152,200 - Rebecca Ferguson - Heaven

[Jase 12,118]

iTunes update

01. Don't Wake Me Up - Chris Brown

02. This Is Love (feat. Eva Simons) - will.i.am

03. Payphone (feat. Wiz Khalifa) - Maroon 5

04. Black Heart - Stooshe

05. Whistle - Flo Rida

06. Wide Awake - Katy Perry

07. Feel the Love (feat. John Newman) - Rudimental

08. Princess of China - Coldplay & Rihanna

09. We Are Young (feat. Janelle Monáe) - Fun.

10. Call My Name - Cheryl

11. There She Goes - Taio Cruz

12. Express Yourself - Labrinth

13. Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen

14. Pound the Alarm - Nicki Minaj

15. Drive By - Train

16. I'm Coming (Tarzan Part 2) - Dappy

17. Where Have You Been - Rihanna

18. Scream - Usher

19. Under the Westway - blur

20. Picking Up the Pieces - Paloma Faith

21. Ni**as in Paris - Jay-Z & Kanye West

22. My Kind of Love - Emeli Sandé

23. Somebody That I Used To Know (feat. Kimbra) - Gotye

24. Starships - Nicki Minaj

25. Need You Now - Lady Antebellum

26. Payphone (feat. Wiz Khalifa) - Maroon 5

27. R.I.P. (feat. Tinie Tempah) - Rita Ora

28. Too Close - Alex Clare

29. Remedy (feat. Ruth Anne) - Professor Green

30. Wild Ones (feat. Sia) - Flo Rida

31. Chasing the Sun - The Wanted

32. Small Bump - Ed Sheeran

33. Bangarang (feat. Sirah) - Skrillex

34. No Church in the Wild (feat. Frank Ocean) - Jay-Z & Kanye West

35. Sing (Commonwealth Version) [feat. Military Wives] - Gary Barlow & The Commonwealth Band

36. The Power (feat. Dizzee Rascal) - DJ Fresh

37. Titanium (feat. Sia) - David Guetta

38. Oliver Twist - D'Banj

39. Don't Wake Me Up - Chris Brown

40. Domino - Jessie J

Bubbling Under

47. Bonfire - Knife Party

53. I Can Only Imagine (feat. Chris Brown & Lil Wayne) - David Guetta

91. Summer of Love - Cascada

[craig 680]

1 - 1,126,200 - Gotye ft Kimbra - Somebody That I Used To Know

2 - 847,600 - Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe

3 - 786,000 - David Guetta ft Sia - Titanium

4 - 677,600 - Nicki Minaj - Starships

5 - 666,600 - Fun ft Janelle Monae - We Are Young

6 - 663,400 - Jessie J - Domino

7 - 629,400 - Flo Rida ft Sia - Wild Ones

The real story is how little any of these top singles have done for album sales.Only Jessie J and Guetta made top 10 YTD.

People like the Redone dance sound (Starships beat all BTW singles), but aren't here for Nicki's album.

[Smithy 2,216]

I don't think Rihanna'll pass GaGa as soon as we thought, album sales are terrible WHYB has peaked, and it's unlikley she'll release another single because all the other songs are ****

[Jase 12,118]

I don't think Rihanna'll pass GaGa as soon as we thought, album sales are terrible WHYB has peaked, and it's unlikley she'll release another single because all the other songs are ****

She only needs another ~55k to overtake, and she's selling over 10k per week, so it won't take her that long unfortunately

[Jase 12,118]

iTunes update

01. Don't Wake Me Up - Chris Brown

02. This Is Love (feat. Eva Simons) - will.i.am

03. Payphone (feat. Wiz Khalifa) - Maroon 5

04. Black Heart - Stooshe

05. Whistle - Flo Rida

06. Feel the Love (feat. John Newman) - Rudimental

07. Wide Awake - Katy Perry

08. Princess of China - Coldplay & Rihanna

09. We Are Young (feat. Janelle Monáe) - Fun.

10. Call My Name - Cheryl

11. Pound the Alarm - Nicki Minaj

12. There She Goes - Taio Cruz

13. Express Yourself - Labrinth

14. Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen

15. Drive By - Train

16. Where Have You Been - Rihanna

17. I'm Coming (Tarzan Part 2) - Dappy

18. Scream - Usher

19. Picking Up the Pieces - Paloma Faith

20. Ni**as in Paris - Jay-Z & Kanye West

21. My Kind of Love - Emeli Sandé

22. Payphone (feat. Wiz Khalifa) - Maroon 5

23. Somebody That I Used To Know (feat. Kimbra) - Gotye

24. Need You Now - Lady Antebellum

25. Starships - Nicki Minaj

26. Under the Westway - blur

27. R.I.P. (feat. Tinie Tempah) - Rita Ora

28. Too Close - Alex Clare

29. Remedy (feat. Ruth Anne) - Professor Green

30. Chasing the Sun - The Wanted

31. Small Bump - Ed Sheeran

32. Bangarang (feat. Sirah) - Skrillex

33. Wild Ones (feat. Sia) - Flo Rida

34. No Church in the Wild (feat. Frank Ocean) - Jay-Z & Kanye West

35. Lost My Way - Plan B

36. I Can Only Imagine (feat. Chris Brown & Lil Wayne) - David Guetta

37. The Power (feat. Dizzee Rascal) - DJ Fresh

38. Don't Wake Me Up - Chris Brown

39. Domino - Jessie J

40. Sing (Commonwealth Version) [feat. Military Wives] - Gary Barlow & The Commonwealth Band

Bubbling Under

42. Bonfire - Knife Party

72. Get Free (Andy C Remix) - Major Lazer

[Jase 12,118]

Here are the top 50 best selling singles/albums, half way into 2012

Singles

1 - 1 - 1,126,400 - Gotye ft Kimbra - Somebody That I Used To Know - 1,132,900 - 14/01/12 - 1

2 - 2 - 847,700 - Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe - 847,700 - 03/03/12 - 1

3 - 3 - 786,100 - David Guetta ft Sia - Titanium - 838,300 - 20/08/11 - 1

4 - 4 - 677,500 - Nicki Minaj - Starships - 677,500 - 25/02/12 - 2

5 - 6 - 666,700 - Fun ft Janelle Monae - We Are Young - 666,700 - 21/04/12 - 1

6 - 5 - 663,600 - Jessie J - Domino - 694,100 - 26/11/11 - 1

7 - 7 - 629,700 - Flo Rida ft Sia - Wild Ones - 629,700 - 04/02/12 - 4

8 - 8 - 526,500 - Emeli Sande - Next To Me - 526,500 - 25/02/12 - 2

9 - 9 - 486,300 - Rizzle Kicks - Mama Do The Hump - 596,100 - 10/12/11 - 2

10 - 10 - 416,000 - DJ Fresh ft Rita Ora - Hot Right Now - 416,000 - 25/02/12 - 1

11 - 11 - 393,200 - Alex Clare - Too Close - 393,200 - 21/04/12 - 4

12 - 12 - 368,900 - David Guetta ft Nicki Minaj - Turn Me On - 424,100 - 10/09/11 - 8

13 - 13 - 366,900 - Kelly Clarkson - Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) - 375,700 - 05/11/11 - 8

14 - 14 - 360,000 - Sean Paul - She Doesn't Mind - 360,000 - 31/03/12 - 2

15 - 15 - 336,800 - LMFAO - Sexy & I Know It - 790,400 - 30/07/11 - 9

16 - 16 - 331,300 - Flo Rida - Good Feeling - 679,200 - 26/11/11 - 1

17 - 17 - 330,700 - Tulisa - Young - 330,700 - 12/05/12 - 1

18 - 18 - 322,200 - Rita Ora ft Tinie Tempah - R.I.P. - 322,200 - 19/05/12 - 1

19 - 19 - 321,700 - Train - Drive By - 321,700 - 28/04/12 - 6

20 - 38 - 296,999 - Flo Rida - Whistle - 296,999 - 16/06/12 - 2

21 - 21 - 296,800 - Coldplay - Paradise - 825,000 - 05/11/11 - 1

22 - 20 - 295,800 - Katy Perry - Part Of Me - 295,800 - 31/03/12 - 1

23 - 22 - 293,200 - Alyssa Reid ft Jump Smokers - Alone Again - 293,200 - 11/02/12 - 2

24 - 28 - 280,600 - Rihanna - Where Have You Been - 293,200 - 03/12/11 - 6

25 - 24 - 276,600 - Labrinth ft Tinie Tempah - Earthquake - 776,100 - 05/11/11 - 7

26 - 26 - 273,500 - Azealia Banks - 212 - 278,500 - 17/12/11 - 12

27 - 40 - 273,100 - Rudimental - Feel The Love - 273,100 - 09/06/12 - 1

28 - 23 - 273,000 - Cover Drive - Twilight - 273,000 - 04/02/12 - 1

29 - 42 - 270,073 - Cheryl Cole - Call My Name - 270,073 - 23/06/12 - 1

30 - 25 - 270,000 - Olly Murs - Dance With Me Tonight - 611,500 - 03/12/11 - 2

31 - 32 - 265,300 - Gary Barlow - Sing - 265,300 - 09/06/12 - 1

32 - 27 - 265,100 - Avicii - Levels - 493,200 - 03/12/11 - 4

33 - 29 - 258,900 - Ed Sheeran - Drunk - 280,300 - 24/09/11 - 9

34 - 30 - 254,400 - Lloyd ft Andre 3000 & Lil Wayne - Dedication To My Ex - 412,400 - 17/12/11 - 5

35 - 39 - 253,200 - Jay-Z & Kanye West - Niggas In Paris - 260,200 - 18/02/12 - 10

36 - 33 - 252,800 - Drake ft Rihanna - Take Care - 417,700 - 26/11/11 - 18

37 - 31 - 252,700 - Pitbull Ft Chris Brown - International Love - 272,800 - 24/12/11 - 10

38 - 34 - 252,100 - Jessie J ft David Guetta - Lazerlight - 252,100 - 21/04/12 - 5

39 - 36 - 246,000 - Maroon 5 / Christina Aguilera - Moves Like Jagger - 1,289,600 - 27/08/11 - 11

40 - 37 - 245,500 - Rihanna ft Calvin Harris - We Found Love - 1,147,900 - 15/10/11 - 5

41 - 35 - 243,000 - Chris Brown - Turn Up The Music - 243,000 - 07/04/12 - 1

42 - 49 - 238,200 - Coldplay ft Rihanna - Princess Of China - 257,500 - 05/11/11 - 4

43 - 41 - 236,500 - Calvin Harris ft Ne-Yo - Let's Go - 236,500 - 05/05/12 - 2

44 - 65 - 233,728 - Maroon 5 ft Wiz Khalifa - Payphone - 233,728 - 30/06/12 - 1

45 - 44 - 219,400 - Jason Mraz - I Won't Give Up - 219,400 - 24/03/12 - 13

46 - 43 - 219,100 - Lana Del Rey - Video Games - 427,900 - 29/10/11 - 13

47 - 46 - 214,600 - Ed Sheeran - Lego House - 622,000 - 24/09/11 - 7

48 - 45 - 213,900 - Lana Del Rey - Born To Die - 213,900 - 04/02/12 - 9

49 - 47 - 213,300 - Conor Maynard - Can't Say No - 213,300 - 28/04/12 - 2

50 - 48 - 209,400 - Will.I.Am ft Mick Jagger & J-Lo - T.H.E. (The Hardest Ever) - 209,400 - 18/02/12 - 3

Albums

1 - 1 - 596,094 - Adele - 21 - 4,368,440 - 05/02/11 - 1

2 - 2 - 532,100 - Emeli Sande - Our Version Of Events - 532,100 - 25/02/12 - 1

3 - 3 - 484,500 - Lana Del Rey - Born To Die - 484,500 - 11/02/12 - 1

4 - 4 - 446,300 - Ed Sheeran - + - 1,238,800 - 24/09/11 - 1

5 - 5 - 312,000 - Coldplay - Mylo Xyloto - 1,219,700 - 05/11/11 - 2

6 - 6 - 271,200 - Jessie J - Who You Are - 1,076,400 - 12/03/11 - 4

7 - 7 - 246,500 - David Guetta - Nothing But The Beat - 508,100 - 10/09/11 - 2

8 - 8 - 216,200 - Bruno Mars - Doo-Wops & Hooligans - 1,437,400 - 30/10/10 - 1

9 - 9 - 209,300 - Olly Murs - In Case You Didn't Know - 807,200 - 10/12/11 - 4

10 - 11 - 202,000 - Rihanna - Talk That Talk - 856,800 - 03/12/11 - 7

11 - 10 - 200,100 - Gotye - Making Mirrors - 200,100 - 25/02/12 - 4

12 - 12 - 191,100 - Military Wives - In My Dreams - 191,100 - 17/03/12 - 1

13 - 13 - 182,900 - Rizzle Kicks - Stereo Typical - 296,400 - 12/11/11 - 5

14 - 14 - 179,200 - Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball - 179,200 - 17/03/12 - 1

15 - 15 - 174,900 - Adele - 19 - 2,115,600 - 09/02/08 - 7

16 - 16 - 170,400 - One Direction - Up All Night - 638,600 - 03/12/11 - 8

17 - 18 - 167,900 - Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds - Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds - 660,300 - 29/10/11 - 8

18 - 17 - 167,400 - Maverick Sabre - Lonely Are The Brave - 167,400 - 18/02/12 - 2

19 - 19 - 162,400 - Gary Barlow - Sing - 162,400 - 09/06/12 - 1

20 - 20 - 152,300 - Rebecca Ferguson - Heaven - 528,300 - 17/12/11 - 6

21 - 21 - 150,200 - Florence & The Machine - Ceremonials - 534,500 - 12/11/11 - 8

22 - 22 - 141,500 - Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday Roman Reloaded - 141,500 - 14/04/12 - 1

23 - 24 - 134,400 - Ben Howard - Every Kingdom - 202,600 - 15/10/11 - 6

24 - 26 - 133,300 - Bee Gees - Number Ones - 220,100 - 13/11/04 - 4

25 - 23 - 133,300 - Black Keys - El Camino - 191,200 - 17/12/11 - 16

26 - 25 - 126,700 - Whitney Houston - Ultimate Collection - 1,064,200 - 10/11/07 - 0

27 - 27 - 126,100 - LMFAO - Sorry For Party Rocking - 215,500 - 30/07/11 - 13

28 - 28 - 120,600 - Katy Perry - Teenage Dream - 1,043,200 - 11/09/10 - 6

29 - 29 - 114,100 - Madonna - MDNA - 114,100 - 07/04/12 - 1

30 - 30 - 111,300 - Amy Winehouse - Lioness : Hidden Treasures - 748,700 - 17/12/11 - 5

31 - 31 - 110,500 - Keane - Strangeland - 110,500 - 19/05/12 - 1

32 - 34 - 108,000 - Jay-Z & Kanye West - Watch The Throne - 218,100 - 20/08/11 - 7

33 - 32 - 107,400 - Vaccines - What Did You Expect… - 321,000 - 26/03/11 - 6

34 - 33 - 105,400 - Beyonce - 4 - 556,600 - 09/07/11 - 5

35 - 37 - 96,200 - Kelly Clarkson - Stronger - 209,900 - 05/11/11 - 24

36 - 35 - 96,100 - Rihanna - Loud - 1,812,500 - 27/11/10 - 19

37 - 36 - 94,900 - Drake - Take Care - 238,000 - 26/11/11 - 19

38 - 43 - 92,583 - Paloma Faith - Fall To Grace - 92,583 - 09/06/12 - 2

39 - 38 - 92,300 - Will Young - Echoes - 473,900 - 03/09/11 - 12

40 - 39 - 91,900 - Lady Gaga - Born This Way - 913,200 - 04/06/11 - 11

41 - 40 - 91,300 - Jack White - Blunderbuss - 91,300 - 05/05/12 - 1

42 - 41 - 86,500 - Kasabian - Velociraptor! - 365,300 - 01/10/11 - 9

43 - 42 - 86,500 - Michael Kiwanuka - Home Again - 86,500 - 24/03/12 - 4

44 - 44 - 86,300 - Labrinth - Electronic Earth - 86,300 - 14/04/12 - 2

45 - 45 - 82,500 - Maccabees - Given To The Wild - 82,500 - 21/01/12 - 4

46 - 46 - 80,900 - Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas - 80,900 - 11/02/12 - 2

47 - 47 - 80,300 - Chase & Status - No More Idols - 542,300 - 12/02/11 - 26

48 - 48 - 79,100 - Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday - 310,600 - 04/12/10 - 28

49 - 50 - 75,700 - Script - Script - 1,178,000 - 23/08/08 - 14

50 - 51 - 74,700 - Florence & The Machine - Lungs - 1,540,800 - 18/07/09 - 34

[saltface 177]

I'm surprised Born This Way is even in the top 40 selling albums this year after it fell off the charts!

Do we know when Blow Me (One Last Kiss) is being released here?