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Bradley
1 minute ago, babs said:

Sia is 40 though??? 

That's a great example. I have no idea how she made Cheap Thrills and The Greatest so successful.

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emig09
4 minutes ago, Sunny said:

They don't make radio-friendly music nowadays. And the GP got bored of Katy, and she was too try hard this era.

Katy deserves more since she is being doing good promo but it seems the 30s curse is real

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1 minute ago, Bradley said:

That's a great example. I have no idea how she made Cheap Thrills and The Greatest so successful.

The Greatest? You think?

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3 minutes ago, holy scheisse said:

its more like.... their time in the mainstream has passed

 

just like britney, xtina, mariah carey, jlo, etc. all faded once katy, gaga, kesha, rih, etc. arrived

 

the new generation is moving in. ariana, selena..., demi, miley, that girl alessia cara or w/e... whoever else. idk i dont listen

 

TL;DR gaga/katys "generation" of popstars is on the way out of what is "cool" and "marketable" imo bc advertisers, big businesses, etc. all want that young demographic. and these stars appeal to like an aging demographic more than the young folks nowadays

One difference I can make is that Gaga, Katy, Rihanna, Adele have consistently been at least nominated for Grammys (some winning) in their early 20s, something the B-list artists did not achieve.

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LittleLion
8 minutes ago, Bradley said:

I'm talking about current trends.

You did not mention that in the OP:nails:

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The thing is Gaga, Perry, and Britney are not going along with the music trend. In the U.S., Country, Hip-Hop, and a type of pop sound has been around, but now pop is out while Trop-House is in. Hence why The Cure had a long chart run. Britney hasn't been doing good since Britney Jean was released, and Katy is at her first time flopping. Like Glory had bops, but a messy promo cycle. Joanne had nearly no promo besides the million Million Reasons performances, and Witness.....:awkney:

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3 minutes ago, Yuuri said:

The thing is Gaga, Perry, and Britney are not going along with the music trend. In the U.S., Country, Hip-Hop, and a type of pop sound has been around, but now pop is out while Trop-House is in. Hence why The Cure had a long chart run. Britney hasn't been doing good since Britney Jean was released, and Katy is at her first time flopping. Like Glory had bops, but a messy promo cycle. Joanne had nearly no promo besides the million Million Reasons performances, and Witness.....:awkney:

God I hope they go full force promotion the next time Gaga drops a single.

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18 minutes ago, LittleLion said:

Britney in her 30s with femme fatale,

I know it's still extremely close but she was actually 29 just to be correct :selena: 

3 minutes ago, Yuuri said:

Perry, and Britney are not going along with the music trend.

Well I mean Katy had CTTR which had a trendy enough sound and Make Me could've done well since it's trendy enough but like you said, it had a messy promo cycle :( 

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15 minutes ago, emig09 said:

Katy deserves more since she is being doing good promo but it seems the 30s curse is real

You can do lots of promo but still flop, especially with the same stuff you've been doing. Also everyone saw how mess and try hard she has been. CTTR is a lowkey hit, I see it played everyday. Same with Bon Appetit 

I like dancin', and ponies....
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27 minutes ago, Debithius said:

Beyonce though? Rihanna though? Adele though?

adele transcends space and time.

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LittleLion
5 minutes ago, Werk said:

I know it's still extremely close but she was actually 29 just to be correct :selena: 

Well I mean Katy had CTTR which had a trendy enough sound and Make Me could've done well since it's trendy enough but like you said, it had a messy promo cycle :( 

She looked 45

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4 minutes ago, Sunny said:

You can do lots of promo but still flop, especially with the same stuff you've been doing. Also everyone saw how mess and try hard she has been. CTTR is a lowkey hit, I see it played everyday. Same with Bon Appetit 

Bon Appetit is supported by radio?

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23 minutes ago, holy scheisse said:

its more like.... their time in the mainstream has passed

 

just like britney, xtina, mariah carey, jlo, etc. all faded once katy, gaga, kesha, rih, etc. arrived

 

the new generation is moving in. ariana, selena..., demi, miley, that girl alessia cara or w/e... whoever else. idk i dont listen

 

TL;DR gaga/katys "generation" of popstars is on the way out of what is "cool" and "marketable" imo bc advertisers, big businesses, etc. all want that young demographic. and these stars appeal to like an aging demographic more than the young folks nowadays

This could be the most accurate explanation, i agree.

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Sunny
Just now, Bradley said:

Bon Appetit is supported by radio?

I hear it when I scroll through the radio, but it's not Roar support. I hear it once everytime I go through the mall, and when I was on vacation I'd hear the same.

I like dancin', and ponies....
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Mythos

Isn't that just like normal? You get famous, sell few records, fans love you, but those fans also kinda grow up, get married, move on. They may go to concerts, but they are not invested anymore in really supporting artists, cause they don't have time.

The younger Generation has their own stars, they support them, don't care about older ones, cause it's also kinda normal and so on, it's a cycle of life, nothing bad about it.

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