Melech 9,900 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Runway said: Raising thousands of dollars for sexual abuse survivors >> an useless apology It's not one thing or the other thing. Why not both? Why not showing that she made a mistake and raising dollars for sexual abuse survivors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustYouandI 2,483 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Talent said: Nasty fans. As usual. No wonder why this woman doesn't talk to these "people" anymore. lol What you are saying isn't valid for this issue. This isn't about fans complaining about her outfits, fillers, music or her damn boyfriend.Gaga makes mistakes and she should be called out for them. It is an important topic and for once, people have the right to be mad at her for the choices she made because this is a social issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minish 29 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Runway said: Raising thousands of dollars for sexual abuse survivors >> an useless apology tbh, she has more than made up for that collaboration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Holy Crap. I will take the time to read the entire Buzzfeed piece, but this is HIDEOUS. Just Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Simon said: It's not one thing or the other thing. Why not both? Why not showing that she made a mistake and raising dollars for sexual abuse survivors? An apology is not going to erase her "mistake" it's literally just words. Actions are whAt count and what really makes a difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minish 29 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 minute ago, wahkeenasitka said: Holy Crap. I will take the time to read the entire Buzzfeed piece, but this is HIDEOUS. Just Wow. If you're not too familiar with Robert read it, he has a rap sheet when it comes to this spanning decades. He's a disgusting monster who's being shielded by the industry and his money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Minish said: If you're not too familiar with Robert read it, he has a rap sheet when it comes to this spanning decades. He's a disgusting monster who's being shielded by the industry and his money. I only know a little bit, because I paid attention when DWUW happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minish 29 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, wahkeenasitka said: I only know a little bit, because I paid attention when DWUW happened. Yeah, this is nothing new there is a lot out there when it comes to this topic on him. The first trial was a bust despite being on tape peeing on a underage girl, this was during a time well before the internet became what it was and everyone knew about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talent 9,333 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, JustYouandI said: What you are saying isn't valid for this issue. This isn't about fans complaining about her outfits, fillers, music or her damn boyfriend.Gaga makes mistakes and she should be called out for them. It is an important topic and for once, people have the right to be mad at her for the choices she made because this is a social issue. Yes, she made a mistake. But she became an incredible advocate after collaborating with them. She has done more for sexual assault's issues than anyone else in the industry. 🔵 - Banned because I quoted a stupid meme. Literally. So, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minish 29 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Talent said: Yes, she made a mistake. But she became an incredible advocate after collaborating with them. She has done more for sexual assault's issues than anyone else in the industry. This is why I just can't nail her for it, it was a big mistake and she realized that early on and rectified that tenfold. Would an apology be nice? sure but she put her money where her mouth was and did a lot for sexual assault victims. I think actions speak louder than words and she showed that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop 15,393 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 As the R&B legend tours the country this summer, parents have told police that R. Kelly is running an abusive "cult" that's tearing families apart. Three former members of Kelly’s inner circle told BuzzFeed News similar stories. Read the whole, super long article here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talent 9,333 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Minish said: This is why I just can't nail her for it, it was a big mistake and she realized that early on and rectified that tenfold. Would an apology be nice? sure but she put her money where her mouth was and did a lot for sexual assault victims. I think actions speak louder than words and she showed that. Yeah, we're not saying it was ok to work with them. But you can't ignore everything else and just trash her. It makes no sense. 🔵 - Banned because I quoted a stupid meme. Literally. So, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustYouandI 2,483 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Talent said: Yeah, we're not saying it was ok to work with them. But you can't ignore everything else and just trash her. It makes no sense. that is were you are wrong. Nobody is ignoring everything she did and trashing her just for the sake of trashing. We have all said that she was brave for opening up and being a strong advocate. At least in my case, it is more a matter of wishing she had explained herself and what the hell she was thinking when she made the video and scene of him touching her "privates" in the hospital bed with all the "nurses" around, or when she decide to bump and grind him on the floor for the SNL perfomance. I wish I could know what was her mind set at the moment, taking into consideration that those were difficult times for her, so I could understand and feel a bit less disgusted when I'm reminded of her actions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theahsfan 13,838 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Gaga permanently erasing the DWUW video from her hard drive like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen 30,433 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, JustYouandI said: that is were you are wrong. Nobody is ignoring everything she did and trashing her just for the sake of trashing. We have all said that she was brave for opening up and being a strong advocate. At least in my case, it is more a matter of wishing she had explained herself and what the hell she was thinking when she made the video and scene of him touching her "privates" in the hospital bed with all the "nurses" around, or when she decide to bump and grind him on the floor for the SNL perfomance. I wish I could know what was her mind set at the moment, taking into consideration that those were difficult times for her, so I could understand and feel a bit less disgusted when I'm reminded of her actions. Gaga, like many people, is often naive. I'm sure she thought he was innocent. She's a fan of his music. She probably wanted to believe the best. Was it in poor taste? Yea. She was a mess at that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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