Unreleased 43 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 14 hours ago, LostSpark said: They gave Joanne, ARTPOP, BTW and Prism 60 If you mean estimatedly, Prism and ARTPOP are correct. Estimatedly Born this Way and Joanne are fortunately 70. Blue is turquiose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnishGypsy 921 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 On 6/6/2017 at 7:28 AM, littlepotter said: Well you're a graduate now so it's normal that you have to study a lot harder But wasn't it like that when you were in school? Here half the grade is considered passing (10/20) but I think it's mainly because the highest average possible is 17/20 and that's really hard to achieve. But I'm confused about Katy's score, because it's actually the opposite of your reasoning. They didn't give Katy a 50% and Metacritic took it as a C. They gave it a C, which is supposed to be a passing grade (isn't it like 70?) but Metacritic made it into 50%. I think that's really not fair. 2 No actually, in every school I've attended (from elementary through university), 50% was considered failing, (in fact, anything below 70% was a failing grade). Now that I'm in graduate school, they consider anything below 84% a failing grade, but this isn't the case for the majority of Masters/Doctoral programs (I suppose it's just arbitrary and depends on the university)? Just this past month, a friend of mine received her PhD despite obtaining scores ranging from 75-80 in all of her doctoral courses; in fact, she indicated her mentor had the following adage: "C's get degrees!" I clearly should've enrolled there instead Regarding your second statement, I misunderstood the grades and their respective sources; I thought the 50 was from the reviewer, and Metacritic had subsequently translated it into a "C." My mistake! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochestrMonstr 3,183 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I haven't heard any songs except the singles. But if BA is one of the songs worthy of being a single, i'm not surprised the ratings would be low. I don't see how there is any "edge" at all. I miss Teenage Dream Katy. She had some lame songs, but most singles (except ET and LFN) were beautiful! PRISM was ok at best, and her newest singles are terrible! Seriously how can anyone call Bon Appetit or Swish Swish "good"? (JK I know people have different opinions and for some people that means liking BA). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despacito 333 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 31 minutes ago, RochestrMonstr said: I haven't heard any songs except the singles. But if BA is one of the songs worthy of being a single, i'm not surprised the ratings would be low. I don't see how there is any "edge" at all. I miss Teenage Dream Katy. She had some lame songs, but most singles (except ET and LFN) were beautiful! PRISM was ok at best, and her newest singles are terrible! Seriously how can anyone call Bon Appetit or Swish Swish "good"? (JK I know people have different opinions and for some people that means liking BA). I mean Bon appetit is a bad song & based on snippets there are waaayyy better songs. The single choices this era are going to be the worst I think..... In a way that's kinda good tho, that shows she's the one in control of the era (there's no way Capitol would've let her release Bon Appetit ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochestrMonstr 3,183 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, Despacito said: I mean Bon appetit is a bad song & based on snippets there are waaayyy better songs. The single choices this era are going to be the worst I think..... In a way that's kinda good tho, that means she's the one in control of the era (there's no way Capitol would've let her release Bon Appetit ) Hopefully you're right. I was so disappointed with BA and SS! During the PRISM era, she didn't start using bad songs as singles until Birthday (which literally sounds like a commercial for a restaurant that specializes in birthday parties). But at least it was the fourth single that time. This time she's releasing the bad songs as her second and third singles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 75,075 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 50 minutes ago, Despacito said: there's no way Capitol would've let her release Bon Appetit No. The song isn't very good but it is very much trendy. We all thought the song would do good just like the rest of the songs on the charts these days. chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckworth 2,955 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Less than 2 hours in NZ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,819 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 10 hours ago, FinnishGypsy said: Yes, I'm from Finland, and it does indeed have an excellent education system. However, I'm currently actually residing in the US and attending graduate school here. I'm enrolled in a Neuroscience and Cognition program, and it's pretty brutal. My little brother attends the same university and is also majoring in Neuroscience, but at the undergraduate level. Last semester, he received a 20% on a physics exam, but was given an "A" as it was the highest grade in the class! Personally, I think professors are horribly failing (no pun intended) their students when they use this sliding scale approach to grading. If the content is so difficult that it's actually considered a success story when one pre-med student manages to comprehend 1/5 of the material for a single examination, then what on earth have you ultimately accomplished? In fact, it seemingly contradicts the entire concept of "education" at its core. Without intending to intimate any tone of condescension in the slightest, may I ask how you came to learn about Finland's educational standards? I am simply curious because most people I encounter do not even know where it is located (or often, that it exists at all). I had one acquaintance, (an American, nonetheless!), ask me what state Finland was in. Further, one of my own friends just recently revealed his longstanding belief that Finland was the capital of Sweden. For the entirety of our friendship, he's believed I'm from another country altogether! Although to be fair, we do only have a population of five million, and Nokia and Angry Birds are our greatest exports. Also, thank you for the edification re: album ratings; I've always assumed the "stars" are like grades (e.g., 4/5 is 80% and therefore only slightly above mediocre). I suppose next time I visit Metacritic I'll be far less incensed. Indeed, some courses may require higher pass marks than others. Obviously, if you're in medicine, it's highly important that you're qualified, as you'll have people's lives in your hands. And yes, pass grades are being lowered in some cases because rates of passing is so bad. It does defeat the point of education and trying hard. I learned about Finland's school system through a news story a few years ago that said, when all the world education system was measured up, Finland came out the best in the world for rates of passing, low dropout rate and high university numbers/degrees earned. It contained interviews with Finnish teachers and leaders of education, explaining why things are so good there. No private schools, 2 teachers in a class, the same teacher staying with the students for most of their years, children not starting school until they're 7 years old, no standardised testing until they're 16 years old. It was a real eye-opener and I agreed so much with it. No wonder the dropout rate is so low and so much of the country have degrees. Apparently, Finland never used to do this well in education and their main industry was agriculture, meaning they were quite poor. But they decided that even if they weren't the richest country in the world, they could at least have the best education system, and they achieved that, which is very admirable. Sweden also ranked very high, along with other Scandinavian countries. My aunt is also a teacher and she said a lot of teaching now is based on Scandinavian methods. I think we're starting to learn that if we want to improve, we need to see how the best in the world are doing things. That's a shame that so many people are so ignorant about your country. Granted, we don't get much education about it. Most people I know can say that it's next to Sweden, near the Baltic countries, its capital is Helsinki and it has a white flag with a blue cross on it and has roughly 5 million of a population. But that's about it. I know that a lot of metal bands have come out of there, including Nightwish, who I quite like. I also know the original creator of the Moomins came from there. And according to my mum, they like tango dancing over there as well. And like you said, I knew Nokia was based there (though, until I found out about the education system, which contained a section where someone from Nokia was speaking, I thought it was a British company because that brand has always been huge in Britain!) But other than that, not much, so finding out their education system was a revelation. I think there should be more done to encourage people to find out more about countries outside themselves. At least my country's starting to be understood a bit more lately. Up until fairly recently, it was like every American thought Scottish people lived in castles and were cut off from the outside world. My friends once went on a trip to New York and visited a school where the students asked questions about life in Scotland and they were seriously asking them if they had phones and televisions and they said: "Yes...we invented those things, actually!" I also had to once tell an American who was very well educated and had actually visited the UK that Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Ireland were all part of the same country, that we were separate in lots of ways but decided to unify. And he said: "Well, I thought it must be called the United Kingdom for a reason..." Also, thank you for the edification re: album ratings; I've always assumed the "stars" are like grades (e.g., 4/5 is 80% and therefore only slightly above mediocre). I suppose next time I visit Metacritic I'll be far less incensed. I don't always agree with Metacritic's scoring system, in regards to how they rank the reviews of professional critics. As the site operates on a percentage system for professionals, whatever method the critic has used (stars, grades) will be converted into a percentage according to the site's standards. And I have seen a critic who gave an album 3/5 stars get recorded as a 60% approval rating on Metacritic. And I'm like: "60% is above average! In what world is 3 stars considered better than average?" Joanne's reviews were weird like that. In a sense, this was good news for Gaga as she got higher ratings on Metacritic but they were clearly wrong. Slant Magazine, The Independent and The Guardian all gave her 3/5 stars respectively, but were for some reason recorded as 60% approval, which is too high. I thought The Chicago Tribune one was the only truly correct one - they operate on the very strange 4 star system and had given her 2/4 stars, and they got recorded as 50% approval. So, why is it, when other publications gave her 3/5 star approval, they were strangely recorded as 60% on Metacritic? Very odd. Translated into the grading system and the percentage system, my personal 5 star system would translate like this: Spoiler The grading system... F = 0.5/5 D- = 1/5 D = 1.5/5 D+ = 2/5 C- = 2.5/5 C = 3/5 C+ = 3.5/5 B = 4/5 B+ = 4.5/5 A = 5/5 And for percentages... 0-9% = 0.5/5 10-19% = 1/5 20-29% = 1.5/5 30-39% = 2/5 40-49% = 2.5/5 50-59% = 3/5 60-69% = 3.5/5 70-84% = 4/5 85-94% = 4.5/5 95-100% = 5/5 And the 10/10 star system... 1/10 = 1/5 2/10 - 1.5/5 3/10 = 2/5 4/10 = 2.5/5 5/10 = 3/5 6/10 - 3.5/5 7/10 = 3.5/5 (again) 8/10 = 4/5 9/10 = 4.5/5 10/10 - 5/5 As you can see, it's very difficult to get a 5 star score. Also, the lowest possible star would have to drop on the 10/10 system and I'd have to duplicate a score, which is why I'm not keen on it. I can't even work out the 4 star system. I don't understand the point of it. The 10 star system is too much, the 4 star system is too little. The best way to look at things is this - if you have 4 items and you remove 2 of them, you know have half what you had before, so 2/4 is half marks. But that isn't how it's translated, apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 75/100 with B http://ew.com/music/2017/06/08/katy-perry-witness-review/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 4/5 https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jun/08/katy-perry-witness-review-edgy-new-look-perry-keeps-melodic-flair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loribb 338 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Ouch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenKookie 2,638 Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 hours ago, ViviLittleM said: 75/100 with B http://ew.com/music/2017/06/08/katy-perry-witness-review/ 30 minutes ago, ViviLittleM said: 4/5 https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jun/08/katy-perry-witness-review-edgy-new-look-perry-keeps-melodic-flair Thank you! I'm just waiting for The Guardian to be posted on Metacritic. However, the album now has a score of 49/100 from 5 critics. Edit: The Guardian was just added! However, it's still 49% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetHigh 52,683 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Critics hate pop girls besides Beyonce it's disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talent 9,333 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, LetsGetHigh said: Critics hate pop girls besides Beyonce it's disgusting. They love Ariana and Rih too (and Gaga before ARTPOP). 🔵 - Banned because I quoted a stupid meme. Literally. So, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetHigh 52,683 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 LA times is such trash. I hate them so much omg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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