Economy 53,090 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 6 hours ago, Dominic Marc said: @Economy Thought I'd tag you here because I know you like these kinda threads Thanks! I didnt notice this thread till u tagged me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,090 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 10 hours ago, beboskoukla said: i also believe in "aliens" but i think they dont look like in the movies. i think these "aliens" are humans like us just on another earth. I mean why should we be the only people in the "world"? there is another earth in the universe with people just like us. I also think that they are more inteligent than us and that they will find us because they have better rockets etc. i thin this is absolutley possible! StarGate series teas as well as Prometheous teas Most life was created by a vert advanced race that programed life in all planets to evolve like then Humans dominating Universe comfirmed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,090 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 9 hours ago, Interstellar said: Let's assume that 0.1% of planets have/had/will have life. This includes life as we don't know it, (meaning: life that isn't carbon based, but could be argon based, or even uranium based) The universe is about 14 billion years old. Humans came into existence within the past 10,000 years, and we have scientifically evolved within the past 50 years. Okay, time for the math: ......... If 0.1% of the planets in our own galaxy (The Milky Way) had any form of life, either that be single cellular or multi-cellular; we would have approximately 160,000,000,000 x 0.1 (approx planets in galaxy multiplied by what we're assuming how much life there could be), we would get 160,000,000 (one hundred and sixty million planets) That may seem like a lot; however, we then divide them amongst our galaxy. The Milky Way is about 100,000 light years in length, and 10,000 light years in depth. Multiply both of those using V=PiR^2H = 3.14159 x 50,000ly^2 x 10,000ly = 78,540,000,000,000 (78.5 Trillion Cubic Light Years) We then divide 78,540,000,000,000 by 160,000,000 and come up with 490,873. This number represents the volume of light years in our galaxy where one type of life lives. If we assume this is correct, we are thousands of light years away from the nearest life-form (which isn't that far on universal scale) But, I'm not finished yet.... Remember how I said humans only came around 10,000 years ago or so? Well, since the universe is about 14,000,000,000 years old, and our galaxy about 13 billion... This means that life could have popped up and went away at any state. There could have been millions of life forms, many even super intelligent; before we came along into existence. However, what are the odds that two intelligent life-forms would occur within the same time period, and within close proximity to one another? That's what I want you to think about when assuming we have been visited. I don't want to deny it, but it is simply highly unlikely. Ive always explained something simmilar to this Life like ours will be super rare and therefore probably only a handful in galaxy Btw life like ours couldnt have ever started 13-14 billion years ago as many elements and compunds were only created after first generation of stars died and shot those elements it created into space after going Nova That actually makes us among the first to exist. At least life like ours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,090 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 8 hours ago, E Nigma said: This is some good analysis but you are assuming normal space travel. An advanced civilization may have discovered a way to travel through wormholes or by bending space (both theoretically possible). This would shorten distances and time dramatically. But that doesnt mean theyd be aware of us just because they can travel faster than light our radio signals will still only travel at standard speeds towards them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,090 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 7 hours ago, DeanWinchester said: That's a very earthbound thinking because other planets may have lifeforms that aren't carbon based Carbon based is the most likely tho Carbon building blocks can re-areange and mutate in a way that makes "evolution" possible. Pretty much every other compound or element cannot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG10 14,137 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 its literally right under our noses people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decodekid 30,994 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Some people don't believe in aliens because they think they look and act like in the movies. Creatures from other planets, like animals from here, should exist, its logical. We are defentely not alone hi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wixson 5,004 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 12 hours ago, Interstellar said: Let's assume that 0.1% of planets have/had/will have life. This includes life as we don't know it, (meaning: life that isn't carbon based, but could be argon based, or even uranium based) The universe is about 14 billion years old. Humans came into existence within the past 10,000 years, and we have scientifically evolved within the past 50 years. Okay, time for the math: ......... If 0.1% of the planets in our own galaxy (The Milky Way) had any form of life, either that be single cellular or multi-cellular; we would have approximately 160,000,000,000 x 0.1 (approx planets in galaxy multiplied by what we're assuming how much life there could be), we would get 160,000,000 (one hundred and sixty million planets) That may seem like a lot; however, we then divide them amongst our galaxy. The Milky Way is about 100,000 light years in length, and 10,000 light years in depth. Multiply both of those using V=PiR^2H = 3.14159 x 50,000ly^2 x 10,000ly = 78,540,000,000,000 (78.5 Trillion Cubic Light Years) We then divide 78,540,000,000,000 by 160,000,000 and come up with 490,873. This number represents the volume of light years in our galaxy where one type of life lives. If we assume this is correct, we are thousands of light years away from the nearest life-form (which isn't that far on universal scale) But, I'm not finished yet.... Remember how I said humans only came around 10,000 years ago or so? Well, since the universe is about 14,000,000,000 years old, and our galaxy about 13 billion... This means that life could have popped up and went away at any state. There could have been millions of life forms, many even super intelligent; before we came along into existence. However, what are the odds that two intelligent life-forms would occur within the same time period, and within close proximity to one another? That's what I want you to think about when assuming we have been visited. I don't want to deny it, but it is simply highly unlikely. This post explains your username. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bujibu 463 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 13 hours ago, E Nigma said: o<(0_0)>o On Sunday, Robert Bigelow — real estate mogul, NASA working partner, and founder of the space habitat company Bigelow Aerospace — did an interview with 60 Minutes: Lara Logan: Do you believe in aliens? Robert Bigelow: I'm absolutely convinced. That's all there is to it. Lara Logan: Do you also believe that UFOs have come to Earth? Robert Bigelow: There has been and is an existing presence, an ET presence. And I spent millions and millions and millions -- I probably spent more as an individual than anybody else in the United States has ever spent on this subject. Lara Logan: Is it risky for you to say in public that you believe in UFOs and aliens? Robert Bigelow: I don't give a damn. I don't care. Lara Logan: You don't worry that some people will say, "Did you hear that guy, he sounds like he's crazy"? Robert Bigelow: I don't care. Lara Logan: Why not? Robert Bigelow: It's not gonna make a difference. It's not gonna change reality of what I know. Lara Logan: Do you imagine that in our space travels we will encounter other forms of intelligent life? Robert Bigelow: You don't have to go anywhere. Lara Logan: You can find it here? Where exactly? Robert Bigelow: It's just like right under people's noses. Oh my gosh. Wow. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/5/30/15712270/robert-bigelow-ufo-aliens-60-minutes-aerospace Well start exposing em Robert! Show me the lizard people! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Aura 5,129 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I only know of one alien Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 4 hours ago, Economy said: But that doesnt mean theyd be aware of us just because they can travel faster than light our radio signals will still only travel at standard speeds towards them Sure, but these are estimates based on our current understanding of physics. Like I already said, it is possible that they have life detection techology and new forms of better and faster communication. They could be the ones looking for life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theahsfan 13,838 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 we've been living with aliens since 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZephyrInTheSky 1,235 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 5 hours ago, Decodekid said: Some people don't believe in aliens because they think they look and act like in the movies. Creatures from other planets, like animals from here, should exist, its logical. We are defentely not alone I always wonder how exactly did we get the knowledge to create modern technology, ALIENS tbh. We're working with them. I mean human beings can barely get along or agree on basic human rights, how can we build such advanced technology at this point? There can be 99 bottoms in the area but all it takes is 1 top to believe in you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 It's infuriating that a billionaire like this guy would spend $290 MILLION on a meaningless space program, which is basically a huge waste of money and resources. When there are how many homeless, needy, malnourished people living in poverty on the planet...? It's disturbing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 15 hours ago, Interstellar said: Let's assume that 0.1% of planets have/had/will have life. This includes life as we don't know it, (meaning: life that isn't carbon based, but could be argon based, or even uranium based) The universe is about 14 billion years old. Humans came into existence within the past 10,000 years, and we have scientifically evolved within the past 50 years. Okay, time for the math: ......... If 0.1% of the planets in our own galaxy (The Milky Way) had any form of life, either that be single cellular or multi-cellular; we would have approximately 160,000,000,000 x 0.1 (approx planets in galaxy multiplied by what we're assuming how much life there could be), we would get 160,000,000 (one hundred and sixty million planets) That may seem like a lot; however, we then divide them amongst our galaxy. The Milky Way is about 100,000 light years in length, and 10,000 light years in depth. Multiply both of those using V=PiR^2H = 3.14159 x 50,000ly^2 x 10,000ly = 78,540,000,000,000 (78.5 Trillion Cubic Light Years) We then divide 78,540,000,000,000 by 160,000,000 and come up with 490,873. This number represents the volume of light years in our galaxy where one type of life lives. If we assume this is correct, we are thousands of light years away from the nearest life-form (which isn't that far on universal scale) But, I'm not finished yet.... Remember how I said humans only came around 10,000 years ago or so? Well, since the universe is about 14,000,000,000 years old, and our galaxy about 13 billion... This means that life could have popped up and went away at any state. There could have been millions of life forms, many even super intelligent; before we came along into existence. However, what are the odds that two intelligent life-forms would occur within the same time period, and within close proximity to one another? That's what I want you to think about when assuming we have been visited. I don't want to deny it, but it is simply highly unlikely. i'm sorry, but i am of the opinion that humans have had civilizations on the earth for at least the last 20,000 to 40,000 years. I believe that there have been cataclysms that have erased the footprints and memories of a lot of prehistory, but i am absolutely convinced that humans have had civilizations that went back wayyyyyy earlier than even the ancient Egyptians (10,000 years ago at least.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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