lairofhk 935 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, NCgaga said: Riighhhtttt. You started this argument with no merit. None. And now you're bowing out. Educate yourself before you try it next time. Thanks. #TriggeredWhitePeople should grow some skin and get over that fragility. It ain't a cute look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCgaga 4,324 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 2 hours ago, lairofhk said: #TriggeredWhitePeople should grow some skin and get over that fragility. It ain't a cute look. Hahaha. You're so disillusioned in your whitesplaining. I'm not even white. #youreasmartone #thanksbutnothanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,900 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 17 hours ago, lairofhk said: "The fact you're white and saying all this stuff is even more shocking...As a white person, you should know that a lot of claims about white privilege are false." LMAO, wow, another triggered white person acting butthurt lol, what else is new around here. You're disturbed by the fact that, I, as a white person, can be critical of white people, and am willing and able to call them out on their sh*t? I mean, really, I hear this kind of crap you're saying from other white people all the time and it is so exhausting. Also, can I say, this whole black people being at the top of the charts argument that you've brought up is not the focus of this argument...it's actually not even really relevant. The focus was on mediocre popular white artists co-opting and using black music and culture to boost their own careers and popularity, and that is ALL. Did they meaningfully contribute to the culture? Did they give back to the people/communities in any way? Did they show some real appreciation and understanding for it, and a connection to it? No. It's all about them and boosting their own careers. And, there's a LONG history of white people, who are politically and socially privileged, as a whole, doing this to black artists/music. White people have a notorious history of jacking other people's cultures. You heard of Elvis Presely? Lol. This is not a new phenomenon. Am I saying that white artists can't be inspired by, and can't make music that has traditionally black roots? Of course not. But there is a difference between that, and simply just using another people's culture and music, simply for your own gain, and then discarding it when it is no longer of use to you. That's the problem I have with white artists like Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus. It just comes off as extremely distasteful and opportunistic, more than anything else. It also doesn't help the situation when someone like Katy Perry is making mean-spirited "jokes" about Barack Obama and calling black people who she went out with "n*ggas." It all just comes off as disingenuous, in other words. And yeah, I sure as hell take issue with that. No, I am not a "triggered white person" (by the way, you seem to talk almost exclusively in current buzzword slang, try talking normally). I'm a person who operates on fact and logic. Maybe you shouldn't judge people's actions based on their race. I'm not disturbed that a white person can criticise other white people but that a white person can criticise other white people just for the sake of it, without evidence, having arguments that don't apply in reality. I have seen genuinely nice. non-racist white people, myself included, get accused of all kinds of things merely because they don't subscribe to an SJW agenda and think for themselves. I'm so pleased that even black people are seeing through this now and are calling out all the flaws in such arguments. Trust me, I am more than happy to call out white people (or people in general, I don't discriminate) when they've actually done something wrong, as you'll see from my original post that you quoted and aren't taking into account. I think it's very important when you're fighting for the rights of an oppressed group, to make sure you aren't putting forward exaggeration and lies. Too often, I've seen claims of struggle from certain members of the black community that are struggles that affect us all as well as claims of "as a white person, you'll never have to endure..." followed by a struggle that is considered a normal part of life for us all. Up until about 2 years ago, I never saw these basic human experiences be cited as a personalised struggle by any race. But it's happening now. And what is perhaps most infuriating is that most of it is coming from Americans who think that what goes on in their country happens everywhere, that all races go through the same life experience everywhere and that it's dealt with the same everywhere. I get your point about white artists using black music and/or artists to make themselves appear cool and to increase sales. I've never denied that. But my issue is, why has everyone got to contribute meaningfully to black music if they want to indulge in it? Why is black music regarded as a genre that you have to know everything about before you attempt to make it and some sort of holy shrine that cannot be tarnished and it must be used as some sort of platform to help black people? These high standards are ridiculous and aren't demanded of any other genre. Some black artists have done absolutely nothing for black music and just given it a bad name, but they seem to get a free pass, according to you. I also don't see you accusing black people of trying to increase their careers by co-opting 'white' genres of music either. Or white people using other 'white' genres to improve their careers. No, to you, it's only a crime when it's white people doing it to black music, apparently. Look, culture is by nature, a form of sharing. You have to share things so they become a culture. Keeping it all to one race makes it restricted, and therefore, less likely to be understood and accepted. And in case you didn't know, Elvis actually said that he didn't invent rock n roll, he just jumped on a trend that other people started. He also grew up surrounded by black people and was close to them. It's funny, you say that you have no problem with white artists making black music but then make it very difficult for them to do it without meeting your incredibly high standards. That just shows you have more of a problem with it than you claim. You don't ask this of any other genre, why just black music? Do you ever consider the concept of white artists just changing their mind and wanting to do another genre? Just because they chose to do something else does not mean that they "discarded" it. When someone wants to change their genre, you don't see a problem. But if it's changing it from black music to a 'white' genre, you go nuts. I've criticised Miley and Katy as much as you have for these issues but I don't think that simply changing your genre is something that should be discouraged. God forbid a human ever uses their free will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Versace 7,979 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 On 5/25/2017 at 4:40 AM, DeanWinchester said: This. How many years has he shown unprofessionalism in his live concerts? Yet the GP choose to send him up the charts Mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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