Yuuri 21,636 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Korok said: Madonna is a pop vocalist. Although she doesn't have the pipes a la Whitney Houston, her voice can fill up a wide variety of songs. She's also mastered the art of auto-tune. Confessions on a Dance Floor would not have happened without auto-tune. Madonna isn't a pop vocalist. She'a an entertainer, she can sing good (better than some of todays' divas) but that's it. Least she can carry a tune unlike some other chef artists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Just now, Korok said: This is the same attitude that will tear Gaga's career apart when she hits 40. Age does not validate one's purpose in the music industry, start getting used to that. Madonna isnt 40 though.... she's closer to double that She cant sing anymore and hasnt done for a while. She's too lazy to work on it and she has children which she adopted that need looked after. Gaga is very different because she actually works on her voice everday and trains it. She will still be in full swing by 50, 60, even 90 years old. Gaga isnt lazy. Gaga works her butt off to put out the best material that she can and actually makes sure that she sings every word of a song live End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuri 21,636 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Craig Barnes said: Madonna isnt 40 though.... she's closer to double that She cant sing anymore and hasnt done for a while. She's too lazy to work on it and she has children which she adopted that need looked after. Gaga is very different because she actually works on her voice everday and trains it. She will still be in full swing by 50, 60, even 90 years old. Gaga isnt lazy. Gaga works her butt off to put out the best material that she can and actually makes sure that she sings every word of a song live Calling Madonna lazy isn't the smartest thing to do. What Gaga has in vocals, Madonna makes up for it with her dance moves and that's because Madonna is almost twice Gaga's age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 1,031 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, Helxig said: I think any artist who's been going for a while and has a lot of notoriety should continue to better themselves for the sake of their integrity and their fans. I feel like it's just lazy, and sad for the fans to see them not giving a sh.it, if they let their voices go to crap and just use autotune. Or it's arrogant because they think they don't need to sound good or that they're stuck in their ways. These celebrities have millions of dollars, and enough free time. I just think, if I were a famous singer, I'd want to always be working on my voice to keep it sounding great. How could you not? It's a pet peeve of mine actually. Edit: it's one of the things I really love about Gaga. After all these years of success she still sings live, and is still learning to make her voice better and better. She puts in weeks of vocal training before big performances. It's so admirable. I agree with this so much I just can't understand how someone like Britney can put out a song like make me when she's done so much better in the past. I don't think she needs to work on her voice though autotune could be enough but just find things that will refuel your creativity so you don't put out half asses music like try and record a jazz album or something or pick up the cello Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korok 4,272 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Misaki said: Madonna isn't a pop vocalist. She'a an entertainer, she can sing good (better than some of todays' divas) but that's it. Least she can carry a tune unlike some other chef artists. You don't have to be an excellent singer to be a pop vocalist. 1 hour ago, Craig Barnes said: Madonna isnt 40 though.... she's closer to double that She cant sing anymore and hasnt done for a while. She's too lazy to work on it and she has children which she adopted that need looked after. Gaga is very different because she actually works on her voice everday and trains it. She will still be in full swing by 50, 60, even 90 years old. Gaga isnt lazy. Gaga works her butt off to put out the best material that she can and actually makes sure that she sings every word of a song live Madonna was dancing a lot more in her 40s than Gaga ever did in her 20s. Please take your time to even watch her tours before you say something this ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Korok said: You don't have to be an excellent singer to be a pop vocalist. Madonna was dancing a lot more in her 40s than Gaga ever did in her 20s. Please take your time to even watch her tours before you say something this ridiculous. Oh wow, congratulations. Didnt know that a SINGERS talent could be judged by dancing. Now that is ridiculous She is supposed to sing! Who cares that she can dance? Adele doesnt dance, but she can blow the roof off with her voice. Dancing like that, for Madonna is to cover up the fact that she cant sing Come on, common sense tell you that a singer is supposed to sing. And if they cant sing but can dance then they are a dancer. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korok 4,272 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Craig Barnes said: Oh wow, congratulations. Didnt know that a SINGERS talent could be judged by dancing. Now that is ridiculous She is supposed to sing! Who cares that she can dance? Adele doesnt dance, but she can blow the roof off with her voice. Dancing like that, for Madonna is to cover up the fact that she cant sing Come on, common sense tell you that a singer is supposed to sing. And if they cant sing but can dance then they are a dancer. I'm not arguing with you anymore. I tried to convince you but you clearly already have your opinion and that won't change. At the end of the day, Madonna has been around for 40 years and that won't change whether you choose to discredit her work or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DancinInPiD 146 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 50 minutes ago, shoful said: So you all know Im one of the biggest Madonna fans on this forums! But dors anyone else think that Madonna needs to start training her voice? I feel like she never really trained her voice besides for Evita/ROL but it was never a problem. But as she has gottne older her voice has definitely gotten weaker and more shrill. And its a little obvious she's relying on autotune a lot more now. And I think that training it would return it to ROL like voice! Anyone else think that she should start training her voice again and will she?? When you age voice gets more hoarse. Happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon 10,904 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Nah, she needs to take a break But yes I admit she slayed vocals during Evita and Ray of Light, but now idk. I mean I wouldn't mind hearing her singing again but she doesn't hype anymore ... and now i just sit in silence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuri 21,636 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Craig Barnes said: Oh wow, congratulations. Didnt know that a SINGERS talent could be judged by dancing. Now that is ridiculous She is supposed to sing! Who cares that she can dance? Adele doesnt dance, but she can blow the roof off with her voice. Dancing like that, for Madonna is to cover up the fact that she cant sing Come on, common sense tell you that a singer is supposed to sing. And if they cant sing but can dance then they are a dancer. To start off this friendly discussion, Adele's voice is highly overrated. Madge can clearly hold a note and disspite her age she sings better than some of todays singers. Yes she's not a powerhouse like Gaga or Whitney but her soft voice fits and sounds pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Korok said: I'm not arguing with you anymore. I tried to convince you but you clearly already have your opinion and that won't change. At the end of the day, Madonna has been around for 40 years and that won't change whether you choose to discredit her work or not. I'm not discredititing her work, she was big back in the day. Its just its the end of the road for her now and she has to retire now Its not a bad thing, it just means that she has done her job and completed it. You dont keep stacking shelves in the supermarket until you are ready to die, there comes a point where you have to say enough is enough and retire. Its like Michael Phelps deciding that he was retiring after the Olympic Games. His time was up, he represented his country to the best of his ability and he knew that there was nothing more he could give. This is Madonnas time to retire. Atleast you wont quote me again on this topic End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Misaki said: To start off this friendly discussion, Adele's voice is highly overrated. Madge can clearly hold a note and disspite her age she sings better than some of todays singers. Yes she's not a powerhouse like Gaga or Whitney but her soft voice fits and sounds pretty good. Katy has a soft voice too. But I rather listen to Katy or Taylor Swift than Madonna. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juju 18,907 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 58 minutes ago, shoful said: So you all know Im one of the biggest Madonna fans on this forums! But dors anyone else think that Madonna needs to start training her voice? I feel like she never really trained her voice besides for Evita/ROL but it was never a problem. But as she has gottne older her voice has definitely gotten weaker and more shrill. And its a little obvious she's relying on autotune a lot more now. And I think that training it would return it to ROL like voice! Anyone else think that she should start training her voice again and will she?? I think perhaps if she were to switch styles of music, to maybe something more down-tempo/ambient/William Orbit-esque electronica, that her voice - with some training, of course - would fit better. She's still trying to churn out these pop bops, and while some hit, a lot miss. She could reinvent herself yet again to suit her limited range and it pay off. But, at this point in her career, I don't think she really cares either which way. She's going to do what she wants the way she wants, like she always has ❤ x ❤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korok 4,272 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 An UNDERRATED bop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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