Afiq Aziz 16 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, RAMROD said: Denying Beyonce being super successful are delusional on your part. Especially when Bey still keep going building her legacy still today. While Britney just running in circle. Who's denying Beyonce isnt super successful. Shes freaking successful. Millions of singers out there would be dying to be in her shoes. Im just saying Britney is the more successful thats all. Like I said. Beyonce's 6th studio album Leomanade sold 10.7 milllion albums + singles. 2.5 million albums and 8.2 million digital singles. While Britney 6th studio album "Circus" sold 3.8 million copies worldwide and 18.7 million digital singles. A total of 22.5 million versus beyonce 10.7. Even Femme Fatalle which everybody said was a flop wasnt really a flop. Her album sales was pathetic at only 1.6 million but FF digital sales was 14.3 million, making a total of 15.9 million album + singles. Beyonce's lemonade managed to sell only 10.7. So even Britney's 7th studio album sold more records than Beyonce's 6th studio album. It is so bullshit to say Beyonce has more longetivity when she doesnt. Dont tell me her 7th studio album is going to sell more than Femme Fatalle because her record sales has been declining for years. Again, I dont think we should compare Desttiny's Child + Beyonce VS Britney as much as I dont think we should compare Jackson 5 + Michael Jackson VS other singer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afiq Aziz 16 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, codymonster said: I deem that a success; being able to perform without lip syncing after 20 years and earning critical acclaim for her performances. Why you so mad? Success is not measured in one way only. There are plenty of area where Britney beat Beyonce hands down. Beyonce is successful when it comes to singing live, but she cant handle Britney's record sales. If success is measured in terms of singing alone, than obviously Adelle can beat Lady Gaga easily, because her pitching is way better than hers. Btw I never said Im mad. Im just stating pointing out the obivous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Sorry but comparing Beyonce to Britney is just stupid tbh.. We are talking about the girl who became world pop star when she was only 17.. who changed the game with her songs.. who had one the most iconic comebacks of music industry..who sold more than 200 000 000 records worldwide.. who is and will always be an icon and a legend. We are talking about ****ing Britney Spears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 On 5/15/2017 at 4:00 PM, LDR said: That's your opinion. I don't believe Britney's Slave 4 U performance to be iconic but for some reason others do. In my opinion, Beyonce performing Formation at the Halftime show is FAR more iconic than anything Britney has ever done. lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 109,702 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 14 minutes ago, Afiq Aziz said: Who's denying Beyonce isnt super successful. Shes freaking successful. Millions of singers out there would be dying to be in her shoes. Im just saying Britney is the more successful thats all. Like I said. Beyonce's 6th studio album Leomanade sold 10.7 milllion albums + singles. 2.5 million albums and 8.2 million digital singles. While Britney 6th studio album "Circus" sold 3.8 million copies worldwide and 18.7 million digital singles. A total of 22.5 million versus beyonce 10.7. Even Femme Fatalle which everybody said was a flop wasnt really a flop. Her album sales was pathetic at only 1.6 million but FF digital sales was 14.3 million, making a total of 15.9 million album + singles. Beyonce's lemonade managed to sell only 10.7. So even Britney's 7th studio album sold more records than Beyonce's 6th studio album. It is so bullshit to say Beyonce has more longetivity when she doesnt. Dont tell me her 7th studio album is going to sell more than Femme Fatalle because her record sales has been declining for years. Again, I dont think we should compare Desttiny's Child + Beyonce VS Britney as much as I dont think we should compare Jackson 5 + Michael Jackson VS other singer. You are clearly biased here, you only leaned on sales. But success and longevity work further than that. And I have stated what those are on my first post that you quoted. Also, MJ is still best selling artist without Jackson 5, so Indon’t know why you even brought that up. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ dancin' until i'm dead (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight 2,440 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I'm not a fan of any of them, but Britney is way bigger worldwide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afiq Aziz 16 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, RAMROD said: You are clearly biased here, you only leaned on sales. But success and longevity work further than that. And I have stated what those are on my first post that you quoted. Also, MJ is still best selling artist without Jackson 5, so Indon’t know why you even brought that up. MJ sales cannot beat The Beatles and Elvis Presley. He might beat them if you add MJ and Jackson 5 though. So its totally relevant. MJ is MJ, while J5 is J5. Same as Beyonce is Beyonce and D.Child is D.Child. I am not biased. Go and look at the European Hot 100 charts. Britney has more No 1 hits and more top 10 hits than Beyonce. Probably even more No 1s and Top 10 hits of Beyonce + Destiny's Child combine. And also, Britney was huge in every single continent. Beyonce wasnt really that big in Asia. I am from Malaysia, and nobody knows her songs. They know her simply because shes a great singer. While not everybody love Britney, just say the song Baby One More Time or Oops I Did It Again and everybody will immediately know its Britney B*tch. Her sales in Asia was pathetic too. So it really supports my theory that Beyonce is not that huge in Asia. Britney on the other hand was super huge here at her peak. Even in Europe Beyonce wasnt really that successful, bar the UK. So its not just in terms of sales. Globally, in terms of icon and star power, Britney wins too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
codymonster 8,595 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Afiq Aziz said: Success is not measured in one way only. There are plenty of area where Britney beat Beyonce hands down. Beyonce is successful when it comes to singing live, but she cant handle Britney's record sales. If success is measured in terms of singing alone, than obviously Adelle can beat Lady Gaga easily, because her pitching is way better than hers. Btw I never said Im mad. Im just stating pointing out the obivous. Wtf.. the thread said "who do you think is more successful." I said who I THINK is more successful, and why. And then you come along saying, literally this: "The question is about who is more successful. Not who is more talented. You are running away from the topic. Totally unrelated." Talent and success aren't totally unrelated in my opinion. Just depends on how you define success. You define it differently, and that's totally fine. I don't give a ****. So I'm not sure why you felt the need to tell me my opinion is off topic or incorrect It's just a different opinion than your own EDIT: 1 reputation point; joined 3 hours ago. Never mind, I get it now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenli 826 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Not a fan of either artist, but Britney is much more successful worldwide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkmytears 2,332 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I thought I was going to have to educate all the delusional BeyHIV but the Britney fans have done it for me already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaisitalian 3,573 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 3 hours ago, ReginaGeorge said: lmao lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doot 2 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Britney peaked within the first 5-8 years of her career, whereas Beyonce started out somewhat decent, maintained a slow climb and is now peaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaXXXon 1,538 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 On 14. maj 2017 at 4:03 PM, AURA said: Atm Beyonce, but everyone seems to be forgetting how she flopped into Oblivia with 4 Flopped into oblivion? You're crazy. 4 sold over 3 million copies at a time when a hit album sold anywhere between 4-6 million (BTW, for example). She didn't "flop into oblivion", it was a mild underperformance that showed legs and is now considered a success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaXXXon 1,538 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 On 14. maj 2017 at 5:42 PM, UK Monster said: and single ladies wasn't even a thing here really . Crazy in love is her only big hit here in the UK. Britney has so many iconic hits. Everyone gets mixed up between beyonce and Shakira here they are more comparable Single Ladies wasn't a thing? It sold almost 850,000 copies in the UK, which is more than most Britney songs except Baby One More Time. I swear some of you guys live in alternate universes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaXXXon 1,538 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Afiq Aziz said: Like seriously people have been talking as if Beyonce has been much longer and more consistent than Britney is such a bullshit. First of all, lets cut Destiny's Child out of the picture. I dont think we should take Destiny's Child + Beyonce discography and compare it with other singers as much as I dont think we should compare Michael Jackson + The Jackson 5 and compare it with other singers. Destiny's Child is Destiny's Child and Beyonce is Beyonce. Its a totally different discography. Now let us make the comparison of Britney VS Beyonce. Beyonce so far has 6 studio albums, and therefore I believe in comparison we should compare Britney Spears first 6 studio albums vs Beyonce first 6 studio albums. Lets look at Beyonce most succesfull album Dangerously in Love. It sold 10 million records worldwide, in comparison Britney Spears 3rd studio album "Britney", which was released just 1 year before Beyonce's debut album sold 10 million copies worldwide. However I remember everybody saying that when the "Britney" album came out everybody said it was such a flopped. It was because her 2 previous albums was selling 20 million plus album and was so huge, that it looks like selling 10 million albums is a flop, when actually 10 million albums is a huge achievement. So basically, Beyonce's biggest selling album is only worthy of Britney at her flop. Bigger peak = Britney wins by a long shot Now lets look at consistency. Beyonce 6th studio album "lemonade" sold 2.5 million worldwide. When Britney's 6th studio album "Circus" was released, her album sold 3.8 million units. Beyonce sold 6.9 million digital singles with her "Leomanade" album. Britney Spears sold 18.7 million digital singles with "Circus". So Britney Spears 6th studio album is actually more succesful than Beyonce's 6th studio album. Dont tell me Beyonce's 7th studio album is going to be way2 better than Femme Fatalle. Because Beyonce's album sales has been declining for years. Album after album. Femme Fatalle sold 1.6 million albums worldwide. I doubted Beyonce's next studio album would sell much2 more than that. Longetivity = Britney Spears Last but not least. Beyonce is a major regional player (US, Canada and shes pretty big in Latin America), shes a minor player globally. Her sales in Europe is pathetic, bar the UK. Britney was huge in France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, etc. Beyonce only has one album that managed to sell 250,000 or albums in big markets such as Germany and France which is "Dangerously in Love". Other than that her albums never sold more than 250,000 in both of these country. Britney Spears "In The Zone" released a year after "Danherously in Love" managed to sell over 250,000 in France and Germany. "Britney" managed to sell more than 300,000 in Germany and 400,000 in France. Even Rihanna has better sales than Beyonce in Europe bar the UK. Bare in mind that I only took Britney figures from "In The Zone" and "Britney". If I were to take her figures from "Baby One More Time" and "Oops I Did It Again" those 2 albums alone would be sufficient to cover her sales for the entire Beyonce's sales in Europe. Lets look at other market. Japan? Its not even a contest. Beyonce's sales in Japan is downright pathetic and nowhere near Britney. The wider asian market? Shes literally not really well known in Asia (Im Asian). Britney on the other hand was freaking huge in Asia. Shes the best selling female foreign artist in the Phillipines and one of the top selling female foreign artist in Indonesia. Beyonce is big in Latin America, no doubt, but so is Britney at her prime. Latin America is a place where this 2 would be in a draw. Global Power = Britney Why are comparing LEMONADE to CIRCUS?! More people were buying albums in 2008 since streaming didn't exist. WTF is wrong with you? And why don't you compare Circus to I Am... Sasha Fierce which came out in 2008? I Am Sasha Fierce OUTSOLD Circus both in terms of albums and singles in 2008, genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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