Luc 4,776 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 31 minutes ago, Lion Heart said: Repeal it. Once millions lose coverage, this could actually help Dems in midterms. I don't think Democrats should sink to that way of thinking. Thousands of people will die due to this bill. If Democrats start seeing this as a good thing because they'll be re-elected, they really have to re-evaluate why they're in politics in the first place. 31 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: I'm sure if Trumpcare becomes reality the democrats will wave in the midterms. They're smart enough to keep ObamaCare in place till 2018 or 2020 probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joschua 539 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 37 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: Lets see if it is better. Unfortunately Obamacare premiums are way too high so hopefully this lowers them but still provides good coverage. "Several states did not see such dramatic premium changes, and experts say that health care costs broadly are increasing at a lower rate than before the health care law took effect. Most people get their health care through the employer, which hasn’t seen the same premium spikes. And for people on the health care exchanges, federal subsidies are offsetting premium increases for many." http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/28/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trumps-claim-about-soaring-ob/ Im going to guess that Republicans will not introduce a bill that will provide A) Better or comparable health coverage B) To those who have it already and / or more people at a C) cheaper price or same price. Implications? Some people will lose healthcare and will die as a result. Its the Republican party's lack of empathy for all Americans that made me register as a Democrat for the first time (literally this year) and stuff like this puts it in the rear view mirror. The only Obamacare repeal I support needs to be attached to a healthcare for all system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, Luc said: I don't think Democrats should sink to that way of thinking. Thousands of people will die due to this bill. If Democrats start seeing this as a good thing because they'll be re-elected, they really have to re-evaluate why they're in politics in the first place. They're smart enough to keep ObamaCare in place till 2018 or 2020 probably. We will see on that, even if they kick the can down the road, the Dems can still use this against them and rally the people around stopping it before it can begin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoful 13,304 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I dont understand why we can't just model ours after a country that has successful healthcare plans "My name is Dita, I'll be your Mistress tonight..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, shoful said: I dont understand why we can't just model ours after a country that has successful healthcare plans Because we have an employer based system that has served the majority of generations well for a minimal amount for quality of service...and those people don't want to give that up. Plus, it's a big country with states that are vastly different in their needs and budgets. It's complicated, to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 18 hours ago, Gaga Monster said: Lets see if it is better. Unfortunately Obamacare premiums are way too high so hopefully this lowers them but still provides good coverage. You don't have to wait to see if it is better. It is the same **** bill as last time that the CBO said increased premiums for almost everyone but the young and healthy. It lets all insurance companies, including employer based systems put in lifetime caps. It will exclude millions of people with preexisting conditions. We will go back to people losing their house, business or claiming bankruptcy due to an illness or accident. All this, so they can give rich people tax breaks...and get rid of that plan that the black guy started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I just received a BREAKING-NEWS message from the German newscast "Tagesschau", that the "House Republicans narrowly pass controversial bill to revise Affordable Care Act, moving toward fulfilling a major Trump campaign promise"! Here is a direct link to the latest news: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-plan-health-care-vote-on-thursday-capping-weeks-of-fits-and-starts/2017/05/03/e7dd7c28-306d-11e7-9dec-764dc781686f_story.html?tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.b83e03151b24 MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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