RAMROD 111,137 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I disagree when anyone using nudity in their form of art are quickly called as desperate, as far as music video concerned, I can refer to Alanis Morissette's Thank You, which clearly conveyed meaning with her being nude, which connects to the song itself, some spiritual journey for her and she feels brand new after (rebirth) her visit to India. As for DWUW, I can't say much neither do you, we do not see the music video in its entirety to have a say how it is. So, the point is, we will see how the MV later. If it's more Anaconda like, then she might be desperate since it's nothing but sexual message. If it's better than that, maybe not. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ Love is 4 walls, a mysterious maze (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo 7,955 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I disagree, every artist you have mentioned have been sexual since day 1, maybe except for Britney but her innocent image only lasted 1 album I don't like how everyone is bashing Katy, I mean she's 32 now, she can no longer keep singing about rainbows and fireworks and making songs for teenagers, she must have come to that realization now so I'm guessing she's risking to lose its main public to make it to a more adult demographic Stream Bon Appétit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Just now, Jenniferella said: I'm living for the song, to each their own maybe ? Definitely. And honestly, it could grow on me. Chained to the Rhythm grew on me. In the end, I just don't feel like Bon Appetit is to her standards or connecting with her fans or the GP. So, is it a song worth investing time and money in? I think they should let it flop and move on...cause even if I came around to liking the song, it still wouldn't compare to some of her other work in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemetovenus 4,826 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Just now, Leonardo Fox said: Im not being misogynist, actually i always tought how come this don't apply to male popstars since they are all about image and sexyness as well Whether you are purposely trying to be misogynistic or not, it's still a pretty sexist belief to have. I'm not trying to call you misogynistic or anything since a lot of these backwards thinking ideas are spoon fed to us our whole lives and we don't really have perception that what we're saying or thinking is backwards. The idea of anybody expressing sexuality for "desperation of attention" is pretty yikes, as our society and culture encourages us to view sexuality as something "taboo" or "bad" Point is though that male and female pop stars should both be able to express sexuality, and singling female pop stars out for it is a bit sexist, but the whole idea of rejecting sexuality is a bit of a toxic mindset to have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 111,137 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I disagree when anyone using nudity in their form of art are quickly called as desperate, as far as music video concerned, I can refer to Alanis Morissette's Thank You, which clearly conveyed meaning with her being nude, which connects to the song itself, some spiritual journey for her and she feels brand new after (rebirth) her visit to India. As for DWUW, I can't say much neither do you, we do not see the music video in its entirety to have a say how it is. So, the point is, we will see how the MV later. If it's more Anaconda like, then she might be desperate since it's nothing but sexual message. If it's better than that, maybe not. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ Love is 4 walls, a mysterious maze (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Just now, Leonardo Fox said: Isn't it weird that this is the first 100% sexual song she release as a single? and this far in her career? I kissed a girl was all about tease Birthday ("birthday suit", "big balloons", et all) was sexual and similar in the way she used innuendos and double entendre's to deliver the sexual aspects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenniferella 2,774 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 minute ago, IndieKylie said: Definitely. And honestly, it could grow on me. Chained to the Rhythm grew on me. In the end, I just don't feel like Bon Appetit is to her standards or connecting with her fans or the GP. So, is it a song worth investing time and money in? I think they should let it flop and move on...cause even if I came around to liking the song, it still wouldn't compare to some of her other work in my opinion. I don't really care about the raunchy lyrics because I just know she will find a way to put them in a funny and unexpected way in the music video, as usual. She's not a serious artist, yes she released a couple of sad/serious songs (some of them even became singles) but Katy Perry, to me, means fun and well produced music. I can't wait for BA video ! "I have been writing LG5 since I was 13" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatAsianGuy 2,365 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Cause its Bon AppeTITS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie 1,218 Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 minute ago, takemetovenus said: Whether you are purposely trying to be misogynistic or not, it's still a pretty sexist belief to have. I'm not trying to call you misogynistic or anything since a lot of these backwards thinking ideas are spoon fed to us our whole lives and we don't really have perception that what we're saying or thinking is backwards. The idea of anybody expressing sexuality for "desperation of attention" is pretty yikes, as our society and culture encourages us to view sexuality as something "taboo" or "bad" Point is though that male and female pop stars should both be able to express sexuality, and singling female pop stars out for it is a bit sexist, but the whole idea of rejecting sexuality is a bit of a toxic mindset to have You are missing my point, im talking about a very specific times in their careers, when they underperformed every one of them were sexy before or after a flop, thats why im a Britney fan, if i have a problem with females being sexy i would start since Ima Slave 4 you or California Gurls BUT NOOOOO, im talking about why they feel the need to be ESPECIFICALLY EXTREMELY SEXUAL after a "decent" era, so don't look for drama here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie 1,218 Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, RAMROD said: I disagree when anyone using nudity in their form of art are quickly called as desperate, as far as music video concerned, I can refer to Alanis Morissette's Thank You, which clearly conveyed meaning with her being nude, which connects to the song itself, some spiritual journey for her and she feels brand new after (rebirth) her visit to India. As for DWUW, I can't say much neither do you, we do not see the music video in its entirety to have a say how it is. So, the point is, we will see how the MV later. If it's more Anaconda like, then she might be desperate since it's nothing but sexual message. If it's better than that, maybe not. the same for you in my reply (above) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemetovenus 4,826 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 An interesting point to make about Katy though is that while a lot of her songs aren't about sex themselves, they contain sexual lyrics often, like talking about having a threesome in Last Friday Night, or all the innuendos in Birthday, or even wanting to "go all the way" in Teenage Dream But yes I would say Bon Appetit is one of her more overtly sexual songs, next to Peacock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemetovenus 4,826 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Leonardo Fox said: every one of them were sexy before or after a flop, thats why im a Britney fan, if i have a problem with females being sexy i would start since Ima Slave 4 you or California Gurls BUT NOOOOO, im talking about why they feel the need to be ESPECIFICALLY EXTREMELY SEXUAL after a "decent" era, so don't look for drama here I think you misunderstood what I said I'm not trying to start drama or call you out for anything, I'm just saying shaming sexuality (especially in this case where you're only applying it to female pop stars) is problematic, for lack of a better term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnglerfishbraBENUS 5,734 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Very interesting how similar to ARTPOP this is... At least Gaga never released the DWUW video... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Pan 138 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I wonder if Kardashians will be included in video, remember she tagged all of them on her recent photo (possibly MV shoot photo) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 98,421 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I mean Have you listened to the song? If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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