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1 minute ago, MonsterOfSpain said:

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The hate on my post is absolutely expected since people here can not accept that Gaga is not the best in pop music at everything 

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MonsterOfSpain
Just now, IAmDavid said:

The hate on my post is absolutely expected since people here can not accept that Gaga is not the best in pop music at everything (and especially lyrics)

I just found it funny because I actually think it's exactly the opposite. Yes, Taylor can really reflect her emotions in her lyrics and I think she's great at writing love songs, but outside of that she's very limited, while Gaga's lyrics are much more unrelatable and I actually don't know how can you say that her lyrics are more relateable than Taylor's. 

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11 minutes ago, MonsterOfSpain said:

I just found it funny because I actually think it's exactly the opposite. Yes, Taylor can really reflect her emotions in her lyrics and I think she's great at writing love songs, but outside of that she's very limited, while Gaga's lyrics are much more unrelatable and I actually don't know how can you say that her lyrics are more relateable than Taylor's. 

Taylor's lyrics are relatable for the reason that she writes about everyday things that most people go through.The fact that she isn't trying-hard to write about unique topics isn't a bad thing,because she is able to write about a basic topic that everyone writes about but do it in her own unique way.

Gaga's singles are also relatable but not usually in an specific emotional way.They are usually just general so that people can use them in any way they want. (That is not really true about Applause which is really random lyrically as most of the ARTPOP album is) Born This Way has a general self-love self-acceptance message,Judas is about betrayal,The Edge Of Glory is a love-song (can be about any kind of love),Bad Romance is about toxic love,Just Dance is about clubbing,Perfect Illusion is a break up song,Million Reasons is a lovesong etc. . ALL OF THOSE SONGS are relatable to any person.So I don't see how you would say that Gaga's lyrics are "unrelatable". They are sometimes a bit weird that can alienate some people but the songs never even explain a specific story,emotional state or situation,they are just lyrics made to be relatable to everyone without any autobiography in them .The only thing that is specific on the songs is the general message that she wants to give with them (even if they are related to Gaga's life)

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1 hour ago, Unites said:

She didn't write Come to Mama by herself :poot:

Oh :sweat: I forgot about that.

But, you get what I mean. Gaga's lyrics are much more complex and have an inherent artistic meaning that I think Taylor's fail to do. 

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3 hours ago, IAmDavid said:

If you exclude specific songs like "Judas" ,the only reason that Gaga's songs can have many meanings is because the lyrics are general af,they don't have any detail to make clear what the point of the song is and this is why they can be understood in many different ways.It's a way of writing pop music and make it relatable to everyone,which is not a bad thing but it's definitely not "layered,deep and multiple" meanings. What makes Gaga's songwriting somewhat interesting is the metaphores that she uses that can be really creative at times,the humor that she puts into her music and that her lyrics are memorable and make the songs usually catchier.

Taylor on the other hand has the ability to explain exactly her emotional state and explain a situation so well that she makes you feel like you live it when you listen to the song. And this is a true talent. Her metaphores are AMAZING as well,her lyrics are that specific that they actually make you understand that they are written by her and they are about her life which is a beautiful thing.Usually her music is really detailed and descriptive and it really sounds like poetry. You can take a Taylor Swift song (At least MANY of them) and read it without music and it will still be beautiful and make sense. If you take almost every Gaga song and read the lyrics ,they really don't say anything imporant or interesting most of the times. 

Gaga has the talent of writing easily marketable lyrics but Taylor serves quality lyric-wise.

 
 

Gaga's music is anything but relatable. The lyrics are generic not because she wants to be relatable, but for the lyrics to be interpreted in different perspectives. Case in point: Do What U Want talks about rape/fame/media culture, The Edge of Glory talks about love and death, Poker Face talks about bisexuality underneath a fun pop song. There are only a handful of songs that is just absolutely generic in meaning, like The Cure, which is just simply a fun song. 

As for Taylor, I know that she has that ability to write sweet lyrics that explain emotion as you said. But then, I grew up on Taylor Swift music. Since 2006 I have never felt any real maturity from her, she still sounds like she's perpetually stuck in a teenage girl phase. And the lyrics feel so egocentric and saccharine. 

Gaga makes you think, while Taylor makes you feel. For me, Gaga lyrics ARE poetry. Art, especially poetry, is supposed to work on both surface and subversive levels. You won't even know that Poker Face talks about bisexuality if you don't think hard enough. Sadly, Taylor only works surface level. She makes self-indulgent words that may sound confessional and highly pleasant on the ears, but they do not mean much when taken apart and closely examined. 

Don't get me wrong, I love me some Taylor Swift but I don't agree with you calling her lyrics poetry. It's basically just someone telling a well-constructed and emotionally-driven narrative without nothing much to think upon. 

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MuglerHooker
On 4/29/2017 at 0:22 PM, Julian0 said:

"Rah rah ah-ah-ah!
Ro mah ro-mah-mah
Gaga ooh-la-la!
Want your bad romance"

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Taylor Swift is a wonderful lyricist. Most of her songs, especially those from 1989 are written in such a beautiful and poetic way, with so many metaphors and symbolisms. She's great at photographing real life emotional issues with detailed metaphors with her music and lyrics. As for Lady Gaga, she's a brilliant lyricist in a cryptic way, portraying dark and personal meanings.

In short, Taylor writes great songs about love, relationships and break up, while Gaga is great at writing songs that describe the inner self.

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14 hours ago, MuglerHooker said:

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Why do you need a GIF for this ? Kinda superfluous.

That should simply show that you can't compare Gaga and Taylor as lyricists if you take a "bad"-phrase from Taylor and a "good"-phrase from Gaga, like the kiddie on the first page did.

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