HolyDelRey 21,101 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just now, John Wayne said: Also Nikola Gruevski formed a coallision with Amdi Bajram (DUI) so I guess he also accepts the Albanian Ultimatums Of course he does, the only thing that he didn't want to accept was SJO. @Gagamel, you can read more here - http://www.dw.com/en/special-prosecution-new-faces-new-hope-in-macedonia/a-19277508 The only prisons that exist are ones we put each other in.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, HolyDelRey said: Nikola Gruevski the president of VMRO also accepted (Albanian Speaker of the Parliament, Second Official Language: Albanian) and many other things, inform yourself before posting Well maybe i don't have all the facts correct but my point still stands, even without bringing up completely irrelevant facts about genocides into random conversations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, John Wayne said: Also Nikola Gruevski formed a coallision with Amdi Bajram (DUI) so I guess he also accepts the Albanian Ultimatums If he did, Albanian would already be the 2nd official language, but it isn't. Not every Albanian party demands completely insane stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wayne 4,527 Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 Just now, Gagamel said: If he did, Albanian would already be the 2nd official language, but it isn't. Not every Albanian party demands completely insane stuff. Then why was Amdi speaking on his behalf and supported him during and after the election? Gruevski wanted the Albanians, Amdi got them for him. Don't tell me he did that for nothing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, John Wayne said: Then why was Amdi speaking on his behalf and supported him during and after the election? Gruevski wanted the Albanians, Amdi got them for him. Don't tell me he did that for nothing? I'm not saying he didnt, im just saying that not all Albanian parties had ridiculous demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miley 5,006 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Europe is a mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Blue 8,566 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 @Gagamel Why having albanian as the 2nd official language is insane and ridiculous?...when out of 2,022,547 citizens of Macedonia, 509,083, or 25.2%, are Albanian? Albanians are an ethnicity in Macedonia. Whats insane and ridiculous here is that violence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 minute ago, August Blue said: @Gagamel Why having albanian as the 2nd official language is insane and ridiculous?...when out of 2,022,547 citizens of Macedonia, 509,083, or 25.2%, are Albanian? Albanians are an ethnicity in Macedonia. Whats insane and ridiculous here is that violence If they want their language to be the official one, they should move to Albania, where the language is the official one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Blue 8,566 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gagamel said: If they want their language to be the official one, they should move to Albania, where the language is the official one. How can you say that? They are an ethinicity Albanians from Macedonia. Why hate the so much that you want them out of the country? They dont want their language to be the official one, but the second official since they make 25% of your population which is completely normal and logic. The hatred got you blind man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 minute ago, August Blue said: They dont want their language to be the official one, but the second official since they make 25% of your population which is completely normal and logic. The hatred got you blind man Do you see Syrian refugees demanding their language become official in Germany? It is not completely normal and "logic". If you want to live in a country other than your native one, you should respect and learn their traditions, rules, laws and language, not make ridiculous demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Blue 8,566 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Gagamel said: Do you see Syrian refugees demanding their language become official in Germany? It is not completely normal and "logic". If you want to live in a country other than your native one, you should respect and learn their traditions, rules, laws and language, not make ridiculous demands. But they are not immigrants who just got in your country!! Sorry but I call ignorance Here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group And stop having such hatred for them, they've done nothing wrong And FYI - for example in USA there is no official language but primary languages aka english, spanish, french and hawaïen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, August Blue said: But they are not immigrants who just got in your country!! Sorry but I call ignorance Here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group And stop having such hatred for them, they've done nothing wrong And FYI - for example in USA there is no official language but primary languages aka english, spanish, french and hawaïen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_diaspora "Between 1989 and 2001, roughly 800,000 people have migrated out of Albania" Okay sis, I'm definitely ignorant. I don't hate Albanians, i just think what they are doing is completely wrong and i'd like for it to stop. They've also done plenty wrong so don't even try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, Gagamel said: Do you see Syrian refugees demanding their language become official in Germany? It is not completely normal and "logic". If you want to live in a country other than your native one, you should respect and learn their traditions, rules, laws and language, not make ridiculous demands. The Syrians in Germany don't make 25% of the population. Also, the Albanians live for centuries in those areas that are part of Macedonia today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gagamel said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_diaspora "Between 1989 and 2001, roughly 800,000 people have migrated out of Albania" Okay sis, I'm definitely ignorant. I don't hate Albanians, i just think what they are doing is completely wrong and i'd like for it to stop. They've also done plenty wrong so don't even try. But not all of them went to Macedonia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just now, The Fame Joanne said: The Syrians in Germany don't make 25% of the population. Also, the Albanians live for centuries in those areas that are part of Macedonia today "The mass emigration of the 1990s to early 2000s has resulted in massive brain drain to Albania. In the period 1990–2003, an estimated 45% of Albania's academics emigrated, as did more than 65% of the scholars who received PhDs in the West in the period 1980–1990.[10] In 2006, a "brain gain" program compiled by Albanian authorities and the UNDP was put into action to encourage the skilled diaspora to contribute to the country's development, though its success remains to be seen." Not really for centuries. They have been moving everywhere out of Albania and just set up shop and demand rights, literally trying to turn multiple countries around Albania, into Albania. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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