Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: "The number of people deported at or near the [U.S.-Mexico] border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency’s deportation statistics. The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations [Before Obama]. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now." Quoted from the article you linked But the fact is that Obama deported the most illegals than ever before, the numbers are a fact, he did. He deported millions of people, I didn't see people protesting over that? And lets not forget most of the illegals Trump deported are rapists, gang members, and have done things I can not right on here because they are so horrific. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, Gaga Monster said: Yeah I am not saying he did that, but we don't know if he had a criminal history or not. And lets not forget Obama deported the most people in history. Also most Illegals deported under Trump have been gang members, child rapists, and people who commit crimes I can not say in this thread because they are so horrific. Didn't the Trump team widen their threshhold for deportations just a month ago? It was Obama's policy that tried to restrict deportations to people that were primarily criminals and he and democrats tried to set up provisions to protect the families and children of so called "illegals" to massive backlash from Republicans Don't take this statistic out of context to further your agenda Also, I'm gonna need sources for "most illegals deported under Trump have been gang members, child rapists, and people who commit x unnamed crimes so horrific we couldn't bear to see them typed out on a computer screen" I'd like to also posit that surely people that commit such heinous crimes are an incredibly small number so as to not even be of any statistical importance It seems most likely to me that there will be more deportations of people that have done less serious crimes under Trump 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo cupcakke 4,781 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 23 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: Lets see if he actually had no criminal history. Obama deported more illegals than any other president in history. http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/ And lets not forget that most of the people deported by Trump are criminals. Someone I know works as someone who arrests illegals who rape children and commit horrific crimes I can not say in the thread. The media never reports about that but reports about the few slip ups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinTrudeau 2,419 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Someone's comment on the article that I agree with: I don't even know what to say to this person. Basically you were fine if these things happened, as long as they happened to somebody else. I fell down the stairs once as an actor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Evans 8,919 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, ZarinStar said: Someone's comment on the article that I agree with: I don't even know what to say to this person. Basically you were fine if these things happened, as long as they happened to somebody else. Trump supporters in a nutshell. It doesn't bother them until it affects them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 125,734 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, Gaga Monster said: But the fact is that Obama deported the most illegals than ever before, the numbers are a fact, he did. He deported millions of people, I didn't see people protesting over that? You didn't even read the article you linked "However, that statistic is somewhat misleading, as a significant portion of it was due to a change in the way “deportations” are defined that began during the Bush administration, not in the actual number of persons turned out of the U.S. As the Los Angeles Times noted, if not for that change in definition about what constitutes a “deportation,” the Obama administration likely would not have been a record-setting one in this area" "Until recent years, most people caught illegally crossing the southern border were simply bused back into Mexico in what officials called “voluntary returns,” but which critics derisively termed “catch and release.” Those removals, which during the 1990s reached more 1 million a year, were not counted in Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s deportation statistics. Now, the vast majority of border crossers who are apprehended get fingerprinted and formally deported. The change began during the George W. Bush administration and accelerated under Obama. The policy stemmed in part from a desire to ensure that people who had crossed into the country illegally would have formal charges on their records." I'm afraid your argument is invalid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 28 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: Lets see if he actually had no criminal history. Obama deported more illegals than any other president in history. http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/ And lets not forget that most of the people deported by Trump are criminals. Someone I know works as someone who arrests illegals who rape children and commit horrific crimes I can not say in the thread. The media never reports about that but reports about the few slip ups. At the border though. The definition of deportation was changed during the Obama admin which made for more people to be sent back; however, many of those deportations included quickly catching those who recently crossed borders illegally or were found within close distance from the border. Additionally, what does Obama have to do with this? What does the Roberto's "criminal history" (if any) have anything to do with this? It's pretty clear why he is being deported as well as what this article is about: Helen Beristain told Indiana Public Media she voted for President Trump believing that only “killers” and cartel members would be deported. Congrats, Trump supporters were duped. Welcome to reality. The fact that he had no clue that health care was a difficult thing should also help you out on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: But the fact is that Obama deported the most illegals than ever before, the numbers are a fact, he did. He deported millions of people, I didn't see people protesting over that? And lets not forget most of the illegals Trump deported are rapists, gang members, and have done things I can not right on here because they are so horrific. Please educate yourself and stop spreading twisted arguments... You're the one who posted the damn article... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 She probably asked for the fastest way to get divorced/separated I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian 20,017 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 49 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: I'm afraid your argument is invalid Don't worry, that's how @Gaga Monster behaves in most of Trump-related thread : closing eyes to "details" that are so huge a nearsighted person could read 10miles away. And that's quite sad... I mean, you can defend your fave politics without lying or manipulating the figures to base your argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, ZacharyMark said: Please educate yourself and stop spreading twisted arguments... You're the one who posted the damn article... It's the old post fake news/half truths/alarmist comments and run. Most Trumpets aren't interested in discussion, just in stirring things up and running when the facts show them to be saying inaccurate information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 hahahahaha i loooove this is happening to latinos who voted for trump omg im leaving, lmfao, all of the latinos4trump deserves this 𝗟𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗚𝗮𝗴𝗮 • 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗠𝗼𝗼𝗿𝗲 • 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗶𝗲-𝗘𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗕𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗼𝗿 • 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichAssPiss 5,049 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Gaga Monster said: Yeah I am not saying he did that, but we don't know if he had a criminal history or not. And lets not forget Obama deported the most people in history. Also most Illegals deported under Trump have been gang members, child rapists, and people who commit crimes I can not say in this thread because they are so horrific. A lot of innocent people living peaceful and productive lives have been deported under Trump's newly invigorated deportation force. To say nothing of the rise in hate crimes, or Trump's own attempts to ban legal immigration by permanent residents with green cards and visas. Please do not hide behind the ubsubstantiated claim that a majority are child rapists, or unspeakables. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Gaga Monster said: But the fact is that Obama deported the most illegals than ever before, the numbers are a fact, he did. He deported millions of people, I didn't see people protesting over that? And lets not forget most of the illegals Trump deported are rapists, gang members, and have done things I can not right on here because they are so horrific. ur hate towards latinos & racism is disgusting, i always watching u writting stuff like this in every latino/trump related trhead, smh, lemme block ur uneducated racist ass 𝗟𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗚𝗮𝗴𝗮 • 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗠𝗼𝗼𝗿𝗲 • 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗶𝗲-𝗘𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗕𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗼𝗿 • 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ooolong 4,440 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Gaga Monster said: Lets see if he actually had no criminal history. Obama deported more illegals than any other president in history. http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/ And lets not forget that most of the people deported by Trump are criminals. Someone I know works as someone who arrests illegals who rape children and commit horrific crimes I can not say in the thread. The media never reports about that but reports about the few slip ups. So how did it feel to be clockedT by queen @PunkTheFunk using your own source? The Unbannable Chanteuse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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