Seeka 12,372 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I'm rather for raising the retirement age, honestly. Since it doesn't matter in America at least. Social security is gonna be dried up before it ever effects me. Most people still have to have jobs at retirement age because social security and pensions ain't cutting it. This only effects people with normal jobs, though. Those who have invested in careers (which is few and far between with the generations that came before us, sadly) will probably most likely enjoy their careers for a long time and continue working beyond retirement age. Then there's the fact some people just don't like sitting around the house all day being retired. Yeah sure you have all the time in the world but that's not normal. Not for us, the human race, who has forced themselves into labor and time management since youth. It's aa matter of who you are and how you look at this situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinTrudeau 2,419 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, Woolfsmck said: Complex issue to be sure. Bring that the government is trying to "help' the citizens, their policies need to reflect the best interest of the over all economy, not just one individual segment. Also, the revenue projections for the next decade need to be factored , not just what the current status. I am fortunate that my job allows me to continue working well past retirement age. I'm curious, what is your job? I fell down the stairs once as an actor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,861 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 15 hours ago, Cocaine Heart said: I am not a citizen of your country. The retirement age in my country is 60. In your country this isn't an immediate issue. I'm sure alternate plans could be made and those deductions are't mass deductions. Yeah it may be terrible for the economy but it's not terrible for the people, people actually matter. Typical right wing thinking. Im not even right winged im more like centre winged to me its not about political spectrum its about common sense... the system just wasnt designed to handle where things are going... Again, demographics have changed A LOT and so has life expectancy since the 65 year standard was created so its not surprising its being strained with the population only getting older, at some point adjustments will have to be made Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 In Germany the retirement age is either at 65 (but will go up to 67 in the next years) or 63 for people who worked for more than 45 years. I think that's a good compromise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 10 hours ago, Maleficent said: In a few years, the baby boomers of the 50s-60s are gonna become seniors, and a lot of communities in Canada are gonna have a higher-percentage of seniors than working millennials. Thus, we either need to raise taxes on the working younger generation (NO!) or cut/limit/change pensions (a little better). ... or increase migration, like the US: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 10 hours ago, ZarinStar said: I'm curious, what is your job? Oh. I own my own semi truck. I haul freight across the US. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJ 8,008 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I think 65 is decent for a retirement age. I think the unemployed should be forced into low paid jobs to cover the gap tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJ 8,008 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, Woolfsmck said: Oh. I own my own semi truck. I haul freight across the US. thats so cool! I'm a business administrator at a medical centre, so I am on the reception desk sometimes, I am answering phone calls, filing medical records, opening post, typing up letters, ordering medicine, update the website etc I just help run the place. And a couple of my colleagues are 70 years old who are now just receptionists part time but they were allowed to stay working there if they cut down the amount of duties they had and the hours they worked so maybe I could work past retirement age if I want to of course. I'm only 17 so i have a long way to go lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,861 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 2 hours ago, The Fame Joanne said: In Germany the retirement age is either at 65 (but will go up to 67 in the next years) or 63 for people who worked for more than 45 years. I think that's a good compromise 67 is a good age then blue collar jobs people with physically demanding jobs maybe could be exempt from the increase Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Economy said: 67 is a good age then blue collar jobs people with physically demanding jobs maybe could be exempt from the increase That's the reason why we have the 45 years rule. People with such jobs usually start to work more early in them because you don't need to go to university for that. Then they can retire with 63 while the rest who startet to work later can retire at 67 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,861 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, The Fame Joanne said: That's the reason why we have the 45 years rule. People with such jobs usually start to work more early in them because you don't need to go to university for that. Then they can retire with 63 while the rest who startet to work later can retire at 67 Makes sense But here in Canada the percentage of people who are immigrants is huge (Toronto is still #1 most multicultural city in the world and we accept more immigrants per capita than any other OECD Nation) Too many people come here in late 20s or 30s and those who start blue collar jobs, for them it wouldnt work I think general retirement should be raised to 67 in my Country then people who work in blue collar jobs can stay with retirement at 65 Also maybe put a rule that u have to of worked in a blue collar job for at least 10 years for example to prevent people switching to blue collar jobs when they are 64 for example and cheat the system Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Raising the retirement age makes sense to relieve the economic pressure that an increasing population represents. But each country has its own unique variables that influence the revenue and expenses related to the benefits. Canada itself is like three different countries when you consider the regional variances. Germany and the UK are more uniform regardless of what part of the country and the US has a much larger population to contend with. 21 hours ago, ZarinStar said: like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,861 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 18 hours ago, Woolfsmck said: Raising the retirement age makes sense to relieve the economic pressure that an increasing population represents. But each country has its own unique variables that influence the revenue and expenses related to the benefits. Canada itself is like three different countries when you consider the regional variances. Germany and the UK are more uniform regardless of what part of the country and the US has a much larger population to contend with. Actually more like 4 distinct regional variances if u include the Territories which make up like nearly 50% of Canadas land But so few people live there that anything that happens there is of no measurable concequence to the rest of Canada Atlantic Canada us Super Bad and made worse by young people leaving to find work in other Provinces. Also immigrants dont go there much so the population is really old In the US i immagine there may be some variances as well from blue states to red states? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Economy said: Actually more like 4 distinct regional variances if u include the Territories which make up like nearly 50% of Canadas land But so few people live there that anything that happens there is of no measurable concequence to the rest of Canada Atlantic Canada us Super Bad and made worse by young people leaving to find work in other Provinces. Also immigrants dont go there much so the population is really old In the US i immagine there may be some variances as well from blue states to red states? Region's in the US are separated by coast,compass rural and urban. So ... A farmer from Pennsylvania (east coast) is gonna have a different take,(lifestyle,opinion) than someone who works a minimum wage job in Los Angeles. Applying that formula , you can see the difficulty in appeasing all walks of American Life since there are uncountable variables shaping each segment of the population. Canada's regional variances are pretty far apart too, just not as much volume in population. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 On 3/18/2017 at 5:04 PM, Cocaine Heart said: Yeah it may be terrible for the economy but it's not terrible for the people, people actually matter. This is the most hilarious statement I've read in months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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