Born To Slay 10,996 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, TheKillerQueen said: Would rather be paying for defense than our money going toward other countries for mysterious reasons like Obama did. Defense is important to keep us safe. We already pour enough money into defense. We spend more then 600 billion on defense. That's more then the next 7 countries combined. We could cut the budget by 65% and still have the largest in the world. It is a major waste of money and it could be used for other more practical things like reducing the national debt and free college. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, ZarinStar said: At this point, I'm not surprised. U.S. is weirdly obsessed with self defence and spending $$$ on military. What about education, economy, or the environment? There are special interests that make massive money off of war. That's why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: The GOP has always been the party of big military, so this shouldn't be surprising. But hey, how instead of the former Secretary of State handling the military, we have a former reality tv star. I know I wonder, 50 years from now, how history books will talk about him. 45th President of the United States, Donald Trump, former reality tv star who was famous for "you're fired" catch phrase and various brands named after himself. He also body slammed and shaved head of V. Mcmahon CEO of Professional Wrestling company WWE on live television. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Economy said: infrastructure falls apart Off topic but I've never been to US other than NYC. What are the infrastructural problems of US Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,861 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, PaperIz said: Defense is important, but the US spends way too much on it. We could already destroy any other army but our country is falling apart from the inside and he's putting more money in our already overloaded military budget The US could cut Military spending by a third and it would still spend DOUBLE what China does on Military. The deficit would also be mostly removed I dont call this "defence"... this is wanting to hang on to World Super Power status which becomes more and more difficult as the rest of the world develops (Asia, Africa, South America) and Americas share of the world economy and influence on markets shrinks every year. Military is one thing that America can spend its way to power on but with drastic concequences. Money for healthcare, education and infrastructure is not sufficient 😑 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Economy said: infrastructure falls apart Amen to this. Instead of spending this defense, we could be investing in our infrastructure. 1 trillion spent on infrastructure would put 13 million Americans to work and according to a study by Duke University, every dollar invested in transportation infrastructure returns $3.54 in economic impact. That is over three and a half trillion dollars in economic benefit over five years. Infrastructure spendng is ****ing common sense. It'll create jobs, make our nation better in so many ways and it's actually profitable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,861 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, AlphaMonster said: Off topic but I've never been to US other than NYC. What are the infrastructural problems of US A lot of roads, bridges and pipes in many parts of the US are old and falling apart Now States and Municipalities pay for most if that... but if the US is anything like here in Canada, the Federal Government participates in a share of those expenses Here in Canada unless its a piece of infrastructure that is National like a road that goes across the whole Nation... Provinces and Cities pay for and manage that stuff but there is a federal Budget allowance to cover a percentage of the costs If the Federal Government is cheap in infrastructure budgets States can only do so much Also the US has a law that forbids States from running deficits unless its for special circumstances (like natural disasters or major recession). So they really depend on DC for co-operation on stuff like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,861 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Born To Slay said: Amen to this. Instead of spending this defense, we could be investing in our infrastructure. 1 trillion spent on infrastructure would put 13 million Americans to work and according to a study by Duke University, every dollar invested in transportation infrastructure returns $3.54 in economic impact. That is over three and a half trillion dollars in economic benefit over five years. Infrastructure spendng is ****ing common sense. It'll create jobs, make our nation better in so many ways and it's actually profitable. Agreed! But still it has to be rational and thought out. Some Government that have gone on infrastructure crazes to boost economic impact in the past didnt do enough planning first. Greece and Portugal are examples They ended up building roads where it wasnt REALLY needed and other areas that required upgrades didnt get it the result was a lot of wasted money on infrastructure that had to be maintained after being built but didnt have lasting economic benefit and racked up the debt for nothing I love infrastructure spending. America needs to make sure it targets its projects correctly tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Economy said: Also the US has a law that forbids States from running deficits unless its for special circumstances (like natural disasters or major recession). So they really depend on DC for co-operation on stuff like this Wait, there's a law against states running deficits? That's ironic as hell considering DC is drowning in debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, Economy said: Agreed! But still it has to be rational and thought out. Some Government that have gone on infrastructure crazes to boost economic impact in the past didnt do enough planning first. Greece and Portugal are examples They ended up building roads where it wasnt REALLY needed and other areas that required upgrades didnt get it the result was a lot of wasted money on infrastructure that had to be maintained after being built but didnt have lasting economic benefit and racked up the debt for nothing I love infrastructure spending. America needs to make sure it targets its projects correctly tho Oh yeah of course it needs to be thought out. But our infrastructure is in such bad shape, a trillion dollars actually seems reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, Born To Slay said: Lol and the GOP says they're the party of fiscal responsibility. Bernies free college program would've costed 70 billion dollars. Trump is throwing almost that much onto our already bloated military budget. It is ridiculous when you think about it. He is just so rich that he doesn't care about what ordinary people need. He sees protection as something that is primary goal for everyone, but it really isn't. It's very important to have proper protection, but not when you're starving or having no clean water, or out on the street. No protection will be enough at that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just now, GagaMyBlood95 said: It is ridiculous when you think about it. He is just so rich that he doesn't care about what ordinary people need. He sees protection as something that is primary goal for everyone, but it really isn't. It's very important to have proper protection, but not when you're starving or having no clean water, or out on the street. No protection will be enough at that point. You're giving him to much credit, he's doing this to please his rich friends that profit off war. No good intentions what so ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Die 1,864 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The only one that needs defense is him when El Chapo (art)pops a cap in his ass. Nod if you wanna make love with the enemy. ❤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 53 minutes ago, ZarinStar said: At this point, I'm not surprised. U.S. is weirdly obsessed with self defence and spending $$$ on military. What about education, economy, or the environment? Trump doesn't care about education, other than giving advantages to the already advantaged. Economy? He's going to make big tax cuts for the wealthy. He says he is going to pay for this increase in military spending by cutting spending on programs such as the EPA and foreign aid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, TheKillerQueen said: Would rather be paying for defense than our money going toward other countries for mysterious reasons like Obama did. Defense is important to keep us safe. You can't be serious... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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