CTTR vs MR Fan Double Standards?

[Gonzi 2,800]

tbh this single launch seems a little sketchy to me. I don't think those streaming counts are accurate and they obviously have a big radio deal holding it up. Aren't popular radio/streaming songs supposed to have more sales potential? it's promo after all, CTTR should be doing better 

[Jinzo 9,639]

6 minutes ago, edgy said:

Applause went #1 on iTunes though.

It peaked at 2 still better than cttr so far tho

[Economy 49,747]

19 minutes ago, monsterdino said:

She has a Spotify deal + Radio deal

 

/thread

Yeah but those deals are temporary. 

 

Arent radio deals 1-3 days typically? OR a week MAX?

 

its still rising so it aint just cuz of a deal even if that helped innitially

[monsterdino 31,991]

1 minute ago, Economy said:

Yeah but those deals are temporary. 

 

Arent radio deals 1-3 days typically? OR a week MAX?

 

its still rising so it aint just cuz of a deal even if that helped innitially

well it's easy to become a hit after a week of non-stop playing a Max Martin produced song  

[Economy 49,747]

15 minutes ago, edgy said:

Applause went #1 on iTunes though.

It did? When???  

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

Well personally, I've only ever called MR a cute/decent/moderate hit. Not a smash hit.

CTTR will undoubtedly enter the top 10 and have exposure, but it's currently far from katy's previous single power.

[Economy 49,747]

1 minute ago, monsterdino said:

well it's easy to become a hit after a week of non-stop playing a Max Martin produced song  

That maybe true

 

but how it got up on radio or whether its fair or not isnt really what im putting into question

 

im debating results and whether its a hit or not and people keep bringing up the technicalities of how it was promoted instead  

 

That only further tells me this fan base keeps looking for reasons to re-assure itself

[Mister Gaga 22,913]

18 minutes ago, edgy said:

Applause went #1 on iTunes though.

No, it didn't. Roar blocked it all time.

[migamiga 12,101]

You can't fake sales but you can payola 

[monsterdino 31,991]

3 minutes ago, Economy said:

That maybe true

 

but how it got up on radio or whether its fair or not isnt really what im putting into question

 

im debating results and whether its a hit or not and people keep bringing up the technicalities of how it was promoted instead  

 

That only further tells me this fan base keeps looking for reasons to re-assure itself

Well those are facts, nobody is saying that Katy is flopping it's just underperforming like Gaga was underperforming with Applause, but KatyCats we're constantly slamming Gaga and us for it  

[Bear 7,515]

I know what you mean, I think they are both successful songs. CTTR might be under performing for what you'd expect by Katy standards and for the amount of reach it has, but it is still doing pretty well by all accounts and I wouldn't call it a flop. 

The method CTTR used to get there is a whole other topic, but I'll save my rants about streaming for another thread 

[Economy 49,747]

5 minutes ago, Bear said:

I know what you mean, I think they are both successful songs. CTTR might be under performing for what you'd expect by Katy standards and for the amount of reach it has, but it is still doing pretty well by all accounts and I wouldn't call it a flop. 

The method CTTR used to get there is a whole other topic, but I'll save my rants about streaming for another thread 

Exactly my point. HOW is not what im putting into question but its what everyone is discussing

[LUCARTPOP 5,924]

Payola's impact. 

[Whispering 18,865]

8 minutes ago, Economy said:

That maybe true

 

but how it got up on radio or whether its fair or not isnt really what im putting into question

 

im debating results and whether its a hit or not and people keep bringing up the technicalities of how it was promoted instead  

 

That only further tells me this fan base keeps looking for reasons to re-assure itself

Reassure itself for what? Gaga's album sales have been good with a single that is doing well against all odds. She just had one of the highest praised and most watched performances of recent memory. Every concert stop, even large venues, sells out in minutes. What do fans have to be upset about? 

I think you are being too sensitive over people discussing the underpermance of CTTR. 

[Economy 49,747]

2 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Reassure itself for what? Gaga's album sales have been good with a single that is doing well against all odds. She just had one of the highest praised and most watched performances of recent memory. Every concert stop, even large venues, sells out in minutes. What do fans have to be upset about? 

I think you are being too sensitive over people discussing the underpermance of CTTR. 

Im a big fan of both artists so yes i dont like it when one base puts down the other

 

as for re-assuring, yes Gaga is succeeding... but she still didnt have smash hit singles like many fans like to see, im sure many of those fans feel good to talk about any under-performance from Katy Perry

 

But in any case my main point stands. Fans are only looking at the aspects they wanna look at

 

MR sells well and flops in every other aspect, they ignore the other aspects

 

CTTR underperforms in sales and does well everywhere else, ppl only focus on the under-performed sales

 

Sounds like ppl are picking and choosing what data to deem important