AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Me to people like this who should know better. This isn't even tone policing, but this is outrageous bullshit and shes actually going to make things worse (I actually do get a modicum of where she's coming from with the genetics and what not, but this still looks cringey ) Ikr. Like I am not very knowledgable about original BLM in US but Toronto one doesn't let people support them properly. They need to tone down to aggressiveness, and get a decently educated, intelligent leader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, AlphaMonster said: That's true but it does not a physical effect. Black people do not have influence, means of capital to make any racist move to oppress others... Racism does not mean oppress, racism means you believe you are superior to another race. You dont need influence and means of capital to press others to be a racist. Also, you can oppress others in other ways than using means of capital, you can simply kill or beat a white person based on his color. Black people are not a collective group, they are individuals and thats why some of them do have power over other white people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Once again BLM (Toronto) proves itself to be an anti-white, anti-gay, and anti-police hate group. I know so many people claim this isn't indicative of the whole movement, but this scenario happens like every month Why can't we all get along? Why can't we promote love and kindness without being anti-(fill in the blank). Im all for promoting black/minority causes, but can't we do that without tearing down other groups such as gay people, good law enforcement officers, and the entire white race... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 18 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Me to people like this who should know better. This isn't even tone policing, but this is outrageous bullshit and shes actually going to make things worse (I actually do get a modicum of where she's coming from with the genetics and what not, but this still looks cringey ) So you agree with her, you just dont want her to expose these beliefs in public because it makes everyone who believes this look bad!! you do know I can say racist things too like yes white people used to be black but they evolved with evolution while black people stayed the same (which is not what i believ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante 878 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 "Gender neutral alternative spelling" Sorry but what?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Dolce Vita said: This person does not reflect the BLM movement AT ALL, remember that please before dragging BLM. OK but what about the anti-gay and anti-white BLM speech given at the funeral/memorial service for the Orlando victims? What about BLM demanding all GAY police floats be removed and banned for GAY pride? What about to obnoxious protests in college libraries during finals weeks? What about them shutting down major highways in protests that blocked people from getting to work/the hospital/etc.? What about the violence and mass riots in Baltimore? What about to BLM-instigated violence across the country during the 2016 campaign? When are we going to stop making excuses for this group?! How many free-passes do they have left?! It's insanity that some people just keep saying "this doesn't represent the group". This is not just a few bad seeds; this is a pattern of abuse and hatred and violence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaaas 156 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 One time in class we were practicing surgery on a pig...and as the pig layed infront of me i couldnt think but realize how much it actually resemble a white person...like from the skin structure to the colour to the hair.... And after I made my realization I told the White person I was dating at the time about my observation....And I thought I was really funny...well the white person ended up really offended.... Dont know where Im going with this story just wanted to share...take care yall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,676 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 BLM is over yikes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
282739 246 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 5 hours ago, takemetovenus said: Disgusting and ridiculous. Remember this does not reflect the BLM movement and everything it stands for.. honestly this ^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Fay said: So you agree with her, you just dont want her to expose these beliefs in public because it makes everyone who believes this look bad!! you do know I can say racist things too like yes white people used to be black but they evolved with evolution while black people stayed the same (which is not what i believ). Not really. I don't know the full context behind this message, but I have seen black leaders make similar "arguments" in the past in a way of exposing how easy it is to manipulate language and try to justify racist attitudes or beliefs. E.G, look at history. People believed that Blackness was "literally subhuman" in the past and scientists corroborated it with pseudo science like in the OP. (Even if the science was solid, it wouldn't be justification for discrimination or prejudice, to be clear) I would guess that is the sentiment behind the post, but it still looks really bad because not everyone would immediately get that 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo cupcakke 4,781 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 56 minutes ago, AlphaMonster said: I explained which words of yours how you saw the races and ethnicities could be inferred from. You are telling how american society works. There is no concept of POC in modern day Europe. Europeans define themselves off of their ethnicity not their skin color. Example: An Italian is an Italian, you can't differentiate them ethnically or racially as white or brown Italians based on how a typical Italian would be expected to look like from Lombardy vs Apulia (latter would be expected to be more tanned). Neo colonial racism has rarely been defined by traditional racism based on phenotypes except USA. This neo racism is also often called cultural racism. It is basically about creating an US vs THEM narrative, and point out to cultural differences by depicting OTHERS\THEM in an unrealistic monolithic way which serves as the foundation to show cultural differences as unsurmountable concepts but not in a natural way, mostly in a negative way. This is the foundation Donald Trump acts upon when he says mexicans are rapists. When you say that Jessica Alba is not white, it means that you entertain the same idea because Jessica Alba looks white, I just use to the term to depict something when you raise that word to a cultural level like you do, it simply prepares the foundation to entertain Trump style racism. Moreover, US is a nation of immigrants, american simply means people of America while France is the land of franks, Turkey is the land of turks; US is not a nation state, in that sense one can become american regardless of their ethnicity in a way that they cannot become greek or german. Jessica Alba is half of mix of european descendants and half mexican, and by the way as far as I know mexicans are also mix of europeans and amerindians. There you have 25% of amerindian but when you describe her you describe her by her difference, I say difference because term people of color simply encompasses every single people who is not white which puts whiteness as center of racial hierarchy. You apply one drop rule literally, and words and thought processes you use show that you also see whiteness as the central part of racial hegemony. I do not say you have bad intentions but your way of thinking has its roots in the same thinking that Donald Trump has. Cultural racism is not good but mixing it with traditional racism just makes it much more worse. First off, paragraphs Second, you cannot say that there is no racism in Europe or that racism is virtually dead there, if that's what I'm getting from you. On top of that, POCs do exist and it is just a catch all term for people of color, meaning people who are not homogeneously white. Also, I never said that Jessica Alba was not white, I just said that she was white passing and I don't get why you're telling me stuff I already know. I'm just telling you how society is, not how I am Society treats white as better and there is such a thing as white privilege, but I am not saying I agree with that at all, just that is how society is, at least in the West. I'm giving you an overview of how race is perceived in the West, including Europe, which most Europeans are more tied together by national identities than ethnic ones, although there are exceptions like the Basque people. I just don't know what you're trying to get at it and I'm just giving an objective view race perceptions in society, but you're acting as if I don't know what I'm talking about or that I'm rooted in something I'm not I understand what you are saying and agree with what you're saying. There's either a language barrier or something at play because I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying at all. I'm just telling you how things are, not how I personally believe or behave which is a huge difference from being objective as I am. I just don't know how I can get that across to you other than reiterate that this an objective view of race in society, not my view. This is how it is, and I'm not saying at all this is how it should be so I'm still so confused because I'm not trying to instigate the notion that we should continue one drop rule beliefs. Race is transcendental, people like me and Jessica Alba—both of Mexican descent—prove that because we cannot tell you what we are descended from, especially not me who can't pass for white but can pass for other things he isn't yet is seen as politically white when he isn't socially white W. E. B. Du Bois proves that as well, as do authors like Nella Larsen, author of the novella Passing, who expose the faults of race in society by showcasing how race is perceived and has horrible merit in society. The idea of race needs to be reformed to account for individuals like myself, like Jessica Alba, like the other people I mentioned to you, as our existence turns race, as it was and still is perceived, on its head and shows that there is more to identities than just race. I'm done for now, I can't go on until you see that I'm just giving you the insight into how race is perceived as a whole in society, not how I personally see race. I can admit, and am not afraid to admit, that I'm a POC that has experienced and has seen the multiple facets of race in the West, so I find it strange how you're telling me how race works in a society that I've known and have studied my whole life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstereo 1,232 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 BLM is a ****ing disgusting terrorist group who have done NOTHING to help race relations anywhere in the world, only continue to divide. The good news is that people are realizing BLM is a joke, and that you can be against racism without associating with this shitty organization. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,707 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Maybe BLM don't need to follow people like her who distract their message? Stand in the light, cast your shadow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,090 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 6 hours ago, Radio Ga Ga said: Umm... there's a difference between genetic variations/genetic mutations and genetic defects Go take an entry level molecular biology course please Next! This! Sure white people get burned more easily and also get skin damaged mire easily and wrinkly younger But we whites also produce vitamin D more easily while blacks are at higher risk if deficiency Sounds like a variation with pros and cons, not a defect! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,090 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, monstereo said: BLM is a ****ing disgusting terrorist group who have done NOTHING to help race relations anywhere in the world, only continue to divide. The good news is that people are realizing BLM is a joke, and that you can be against racism without associating with this shitty organization. BLM, PETA... examples of how anything taken to extremes no matter what the cause make ppl loose respect for you the ends dont always justify the means if the means do more harm than what its trying to fix When people get passionate about an issue and join an organization they need to learn to remain humble and balanced. Some people cant seem to do that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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