Carmex 964 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Let's face it, we all loved her because she was a popstar and she knew the game, and she clearly had so much love for the art and craft of pop music and pop culture in general. She loved pop songs like Stars Are Blind, she knew the way a pop song should be structured, she knew the aesthetics that went along with being a popstar, she had it DOWN PACKED. And it's not bad to miss that about her, it's not bad to miss her dance music. Stop shaming the fans who do! However if she isn't your cup of tea anymore and you aren't emotionally invested like I and several others, then you should be dragged. I adore Joanne however. Just a PSA! It's 6 AM and I'm bored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Heart 4,400 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Theres nothing wrong with it, but constantly moaning about it like some monsters do is annoying as ****. "GGD IS NOT FOR YOU" - Admin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Diamond Heart said: Theres nothing wrong with it, but constantly moaning about it like some monsters do is annoying as ****. i agree i mean its clear she ain't going back to that, it's clear she feels like the pop industry chewed her up and spit her out and i feel for her and sympathize, but we're all low key pressed because she really was pop perfection in every sense. she's still an amazing person now....the gma video i saw of her giving gifts to kids in the charity thing or whatever, warmed my cold heart + joanne is pretty solid though it got old quick for me, i can still bop to several songs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJ 8,008 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Joanne is a great pop album, if she didn't try and delve into a few other genres also she would be criticized for going backwards as an artist. She's not going to make dance music like Just Dance and Poker Face again because that is the sound of 2009 its just not around anymore that sound has gone from the whole industry. Joanne is something completely different and I wouldn't have it any other way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Carmex said: Let's face it, we all loved her because she was a popstar and she knew the game, and she clearly had so much love for the art and craft of pop music and pop culture in general. She loved pop songs like Stars Are Blind, she knew the way a pop song should be structured, she knew the aesthetics that went along with being a popstar, she had it DOWN PACKED. I agree. I don't have problem with her experimenting with genres, she's been doing that since BTW. But, where's the fearless girl who knew what she wanted and who was unstoppable and unbeatable? She seems really fragile lately. 5 minutes ago, UK Monster said: if she didn't try and delve into a few other genres also she would be criticized for going backwards as an artist. Would she tho? She experimented with genres on Joanne and the album was still not critically acclaimed. In fact, her most acclaimed albums (The Fame and The Fame Monster) had the most mainstream sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnTakamaki 6,686 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 It's not bad it just the fact that some people using it as an excuse to bashing Gaga and the hater acting like they're fan and roaming all over facebook and say "Gaga should copy Madonna again i miss the old CopyGa" "i'm Lady "GaGa"" fan but she couldnt beat KP now " etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, MaryJaneHolland said: I agree. I don't have problem with her experimenting with genres, she's been doing that since BTW. But, where's the fearless girl who knew what she wanted and who was unstoppable and unbeatable? She seems really fragile lately. Would she tho? She experimented with genres on Joanne and the album was still not critically acclaimed. In fact, her most acclaimed albums (The Fame and The Fame Monster) had the most mainstream sound. babe she's not fragile she's just getting older and wiser lol she isn't some young pretty thing anymore idk i dont meant that in an ageist way but as you get older you mature, you settle down, you become more at peace with yourself and stop fighting so hard to prove things to others that my not really matter at the end of the day she still is very passionate about things though like charity and politics and making genuine music now so im not sure what you're referring to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayonetta 9,844 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: who was unstoppable and unbeatable? I don't think she necessarily ever wanted to be unbeatable? And if she did I'm glad she's over it now, it's kind of a pathetic reason to push yourself imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, EvilCat said: It's not bad it just the fact that some people using it as an excuse to bashing Gaga and the hater acting like they're fan and roaming all over facebook and say "Gaga should copy Madonna again i miss the old CopyGa" "i'm Lady "GaGa"" fan but she couldnt beat KP now " etc well yeah those comments are usually overdramatized but don't take em seriously lol it's all in good fun, gaga was influenced heavily by madonna though it's so weird i'll listen to some random madonnas song and hear something gaga has similarly said in her own song and im just like wait what lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I don't miss the old Gaga I just miss decent and fun music. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miky 9,420 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Heterophobia said: I don't think she necessarily ever wanted to be unbeatable? And if she did I'm glad she's over it now, it's kind of a pathetic reason to push yourself imo "Who wants to be second" and other comments? She wanted to be on top and she lost this passion, it's quite clear. Too many people here with moral superiority complex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, UK Monster said: Joanne is a great pop album, if she didn't try and delve into a few other genres also she would be criticized for going backwards as an artist. She's not going to make dance music like Just Dance and Poker Face again because that is the sound of 2009 its just not around anymore that sound has gone from the whole industry. Joanne is something completely different and I wouldn't have it any other way. i really wouldn't consider joanne a pop album but it is pretty cohesive and solid but a bit underwhelming. anywho i don't think anyone is specifically asking her to go back to the just dance-poker face sound, because the fame really didn't age too well bc as you said that was the sound of 2009. the fans just want her to make dance pop/pop music in general and surely she could have transitioned with the different pop sounds through the years just fine since she never had a problem making music that at the time sounded very current and amazing (mins ARTPOP) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmex 964 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dominic Marc said: I don't miss the old Gaga I just miss decent and fun music. omg wait this tea...well dancing in circles and john wayne are fun songs lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayonetta 9,844 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Miky said: "Who wants to be second" and other comments? She wanted to be on top and she lost this passion, it's quite clear. Then I'm honestly glad she's over it now, yeah sure it's great to be on top but don't build your music solely for that purpose (or even effect it slightly) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Blue 8,566 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I didnt love gaga just bc she was the best and she knew her game.. I had no idea about music industry and sales and stuff I was 13 .. I just loved her because she was fierce and different mixed with very innovative mv, sound and fashion she would always surpise me with her songs mv and performances loved her creativity and artistry and some controversy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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