BuzzcutSeason 3,307 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 14 hours ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: Don't tell me your one of those people who thinks it's only racist if someone calls you the N-word!??? And if not, then everything else is suspect. Because that's what you seem to be getting at over these past couple of pages... Donald Trump gave an interview(that I posted in a previous post up above), that a federal judge born in Indiana could NOT do his job effectively judging him because he is Mexican! You can't get more text book definition racist than that! SMH If you defend that, then maybe you need to seriously look within & checkout your own personal feelings when it comes to race! Thats not at all what i said or what i was referring to. I'm saying its an opinion and not fact. You responded to me in another thread saying the same thing. look at my actual post, and even the one before it. I was referring to that instance only. Your being a little extra rn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzcutSeason 3,307 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 14 hours ago, Adakam said: So he doesnt agree with women defending their rights? The protest was also against him. Don't get it twisted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baduizm 551 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 On 1/22/2017 at 3:32 PM, Benji said: He also tweeted - "Peaceful protests are a hallmark of our democracy. Even if I don't always agree, I recognize the rights of people to express their views." Can't knock him for this. Yeah... someone definitely had to hold his hand and walk him through this tweet lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, BuzzcutSeason said: The protest was also against him. Don't get it twisted. The protest was against Trump's words, actions and the policies he has said he was going to implement. Among other things, the march’s statement of principles calls for: Accountability and justice for police brutality” and “[dismantling] the gender and racial inequities within the criminal justice system Freedom from sexual violence Ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment to the Constitution that would guarantee equal protection based on gender Affirming that all domestic and caretaking work is work, even if unpaid, and that women — especially women of color — bear the brunt of that burden “The right to organize and fight for a living minimum wage” for all workers, labor protections for undocumented and migrant workers, and “solidarity with sex workers’ rights movements” Comprehensive reproductive rights, LGBTQ rights, and immigrant and refugee rights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,366 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 hours ago, BuzzcutSeason said: Thats not at all what i said or what i was referring to. I'm saying its an opinion and not fact. You responded to me in another thread saying the same thing. look at my actual post, and even the one before it. I was referring to that instance only. Your being a little extra rn. But you implied in other posts that NOTHING he has said or done can technically be considered racist, and I just gave you an example to the contrary of that. And I am not being extra! Just pointing out the GIGANTIC falsehood that he has never done, said, or intimidated anything racist at all before!!! Smh Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzcutSeason 3,307 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Whispering said: The protest was against Trump's words, actions and the policies he has said he was going to implement. Among other things, the march’s statement of principles calls for: Accountability and justice for police brutality” and “[dismantling] the gender and racial inequities within the criminal justice system Freedom from sexual violence Ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment to the Constitution that would guarantee equal protection based on gender Affirming that all domestic and caretaking work is work, even if unpaid, and that women — especially women of color — bear the brunt of that burden “The right to organize and fight for a living minimum wage” for all workers, labor protections for undocumented and migrant workers, and “solidarity with sex workers’ rights movements” Comprehensive reproductive rights, LGBTQ rights, and immigrant and refugee rights It's still against trump in ways. Like it wasn't at all for him. All i was saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzcutSeason 3,307 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 59 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: But you implied in other posts that NOTHING he has said or done can technically be considered racist, and I just gave you an example to the contrary of that. And I am not being extra! Just pointing out the GIGANTIC falsehood that he has never done, said, or intimidated anything racist at all before!!! Smh You were though. You went out of your way to let me know a form of him being racist. Did i say he wasn't ever, no. I was talking about one statement which has been twisted to be very very racist when realistically it's rational. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,366 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said: You were though. You went out of your way to let me know a form of him being racist. Did i say he wasn't ever, no. I was talking about one statement which has been twisted to be very very racist when realistically it's rational. Sorry! I mistook you for a different person on this thread... I still don't think what he said about illegal immigrants is fact based, or rational tho... Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,289 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 On 1/23/2017 at 5:58 AM, TheFame Monster said: Trump did not partake in violence, nor was he racist. The key words were "illegal immigrants" "illegeal". On 1/23/2017 at 6:05 AM, Gaga Monster said: But those were his real words. He was talking about ILLEGAL immigrants, not US citizens. Maybe instead of believing what the media wants you to believe, do research and see what he actually said. Why are you guys talking about immigrants? The other users didn't mention immigrants, they called him racist. You just jumped to make it about 'illegal immigrants' so that you could emphasise he said 'illegal'. The user could have been talking about Trump feeding the conspiracy that the first Black President was illegitimate and was actually born in Kenya . The user could have been talking about how Trump said a distinguished federal judge, born in Indiana, couldn’t be trusted to do his job because, quote, ‘He’s a Mexican.’ Maybe the user was also talking the xenophobia of Trump suggesting a temporary ban of all muslims coming into the U.S. Maybe they thought Trump saying that thousands of American Muslims in New Jersey cheered the 9/11 attacks (which is obviously false) was islamophobic. Maybe they also actually did feel that saying Mexican immigrants (even illegals!!) where rapists bringing crime and drugs (with some, he assumes, being ok) was racist fear-mongering considering there is no evidence immigrants commit more crimes than native-born Americans. Maybe they felt that spreading misinformation and lies like "4 out of 5 white people who were victims of homicide were murdered by blacks." was racist and spread racist stereotypes. Maybe they felt having a spokesperson who criticized Obama for being "a negro" and not "pure-breed" was a little racist. They could have felt that saying that the father of a slain muslim U.S. soldier said the entire speech because the mother was 'not allowed' was a tad islamophobic. Maybe they felt that saying, about profiling muslims and african americans: "something that we’re going to have to start thinking about as a country, you look at Israel and you look at others and they do it successfully.You know, I hate the concept of profiling. But we have to start using common sense and we have to use, you know, we have to use our heads.” Was a little bit racist. Maybe they felt giving James Edwards, a well known white supremicist, press credentials was a little racist. Maybe they felt Trump choosing William Johnson, a white supremacist leader, as a Delegate in California was a bit racist. Maybe the analysis that showed 62% of the people Trump retweeted on the week of January 19th 2016 were white supremacist accounts makes Trump seem a bit racist. Maybe his hesitancy to disavow KKK leaders like David Duke made people think he might be a little racist. The fact is, when Trump supporters where polled: 60% Support banning Muslims from entering the United States 50% Support the Confederate flag hanging on the capital grounds 30% Support shutting down all mosques in the United States 30% Wish the South won the civil war 25% Islam should be illegal in the United States 25% Support the policy of Japanese Internment 20% Support banning homosexuals from entering the United States 10% Say Whites are a superior race (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_SC_21616.pdf) The fact is white supremacists like David Duke boasted about how his ideas have gone mainstream and how Trump talks about things he has been saying for decades. He appeals to these people because of his racist rhetoric. It's not just some weird random coincidence that these neo-nazi altright groups so enthusiastically endorsed Trump during his campaign. It's not just some bizarre coincidence that so many of his supporters hold these racist beliefs. It's not some incredible bit of misfortune that incidents like this: happened after Trump's win. Trump's racist rhetoric empowered these people. I have had conversations with Trump supporters that say, despite Trump's racism, sexism and xenophobia they think Trump can bring jobs back and 'fix' the economy. There are plenty of people who voted for Trump despite his bigotry, not because of it. You can't just refuse to see it though. You can't just close your eyes, block your ears and pretend it doesn't exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Bebe said: Why are you guys talking about immigrants? The other users didn't mention immigrants, they called him racist. You just jumped to make it about 'illegal immigrants' so that you could emphasise he said 'illegal'. The user could have been talking about Trump feeding the conspiracy that the first Black President was illegitimate and was actually born in Kenya . The user could have been talking about how Trump said a distinguished federal judge, born in Indiana, couldn’t be trusted to do his job because, quote, ‘He’s a Mexican.’ Maybe the user was also talking the xenophobia of Trump suggesting a temporary ban of all muslims coming into the U.S. Maybe they thought Trump saying that thousands of American Muslims in New Jersey cheered the 9/11 attacks (which is obviously false) was islamophobic. Maybe they also actually did feel that saying Mexican immigrants (even illegals!!) where rapists bringing crime and drugs (with some, he assumes, being ok) was racist fear-mongering considering there is no evidence immigrants commit more crimes than native-born Americans. Maybe they felt that spreading misinformation and lies like "4 out of 5 white people who were victims of homicide were murdered by blacks." was racist and spread racist stereotypes. Maybe they felt having a spokesperson who criticized Obama for being "a negro" and not "pure-breed" was a little racist. They could have felt that saying that the father of a slain muslim U.S. soldier said the entire speech because the mother was 'not allowed' was a tad islamophobic. Maybe they felt that saying, about profiling muslims and african americans: "something that we’re going to have to start thinking about as a country, you look at Israel and you look at others and they do it successfully.You know, I hate the concept of profiling. But we have to start using common sense and we have to use, you know, we have to use our heads.” Was a little bit racist. Maybe they felt giving James Edwards, a well known white supremicist, press credentials was a little racist. Maybe they felt Trump choosing William Johnson, a white supremacist leader, as a Delegate in California was a bit racist. Maybe the analysis that showed 62% of the people Trump retweeted on the week of January 19th 2016 were white supremacist accounts makes Trump seem a bit racist. Maybe his hesitancy to disavow KKK leaders like David Duke made people think he might be a little racist. The fact is, when Trump supporters where polled: 60% Support banning Muslims from entering the United States 50% Support the Confederate flag hanging on the capital grounds 30% Support shutting down all mosques in the United States 30% Wish the South won the civil war 25% Islam should be illegal in the United States 25% Support the policy of Japanese Internment 20% Support banning homosexuals from entering the United States 10% Say Whites are a superior race (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_SC_21616.pdf) The fact is white supremacists like David Duke boasted about how his ideas have gone mainstream and how Trump talks about things he has been saying for decades. He appeals to these people because of his racist rhetoric. It's not just some weird random coincidence that these neo-nazi altright groups so enthusiastically endorsed Trump during his campaign. It's not just some bizarre coincidence that so many of his supporters hold these racist beliefs. It's not some incredible bit of misfortune that incidents like this: happened after Trump's win. Trump's racist rhetoric empowered these people. I have had conversations with Trump supporters that say, despite Trump's racism, sexism and xenophobia they think Trump can bring jobs back and 'fix' the economy. There are plenty of people who voted for Trump despite his bigotry, not because of it. You can't just refuse to see it though. You can't just close your eyes, block your ears and pretend it doesn't exist. Spoiler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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