Borislshere 53,028 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just now, lifeasgeorge said: Hence the song is not underrated i meant underrated more in the way that it isn't appreciated enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Devyn said: but look at lemonade. most monsters call it overrated and deny the impact it's had. That is a false equivalency if there ever was one. Lemonade while overrated at times, is creatively strong and a lyrically beautiful work. In the end, Closer has had zero creative impact on its genre, and not to mention incredibly boring. You can like it all you want, but there's no 'there there' when it comes to this song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia 6,093 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, freebit said: Something being terrible has never stopped some song/movie/whatever from being successful, what matters is that people like it for whatever reason, those reasons not necessarily being linked to quality. Yeah but then don't you have to define what quality music is? What are the standards in music and lyrics to you? And why should we all abide by your vision of quality? I know a lot of songs that seem simple, but imo no other artist could have made something so gorgeous, a big example being CCR. I don't like the Chainsmokers but at the same time they are making catchy music that make ppl happy and want to dance, doesn't that take talent? FATWIFE, First Lady Of GGD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 It's a horrible overrated song shoved down everyone's throats by the radio. Wherever you go, supermarket, clothing store, coffee shop, you can't escape that mess. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 ya'll need to learn how to respect an opinion i cant even https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anastasia said: Yeah but then don't you have to define what quality music is? What are the standards in music and lyrics to you? And why should we all abide by your vision of quality? I know a lot of songs that seem simple, but imo no other artist could have made something so gorgeous, a bit example being CCR. I don't like the Chainsmokers but at the same time they are making catchy music that make ppl happy and want to dance, doesn't that take talent? Once again, so this could stand for the works of Nicolas Sparks and Stephanie Meyer. Their work makes people happy and is popular, but does this mean they make great literature that should be hailed by all? Is Ugg the greatest shoe ever made? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeasgeorge 9,427 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just now, Devyn said: i meant underrated more in the way that it isn't appreciated enough I mean it was clearly appreciated by the general public since it smashed, it was a generic, catchy, and very easily digestible bop. Just because a song hits number 1 does not mean it's a quality song though. Bad Romance was massive and had such a huge cultural impact yet peaked at #2 live and let live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 53,028 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just now, freebit said: Once again, so does this could stand for the works of Nicolas Sparks and Stephanie Meyer. Their work makes people happy and is popular, but does this mean they make great literature that should be hailed by all? i'm not asking for it to be hailed though. There's so much work out there that i find bad but i won't deny it's impact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia 6,093 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just now, freebit said: Once again, so does this could stand for the works of Nicolas Sparks and Stephanie Meyer. Their work makes people happy and is popular, but does this mean they make great literature that should be hailed by all? I wasn't saying they make great music that needs to be hailed by all, just saying that they do in fact have talent, and imo to have the ability to connect with that many ppl and make them smile is something special. Are they Mozart? Absolutely not, but I couldn't even nearly make a song as good as Closer that is that big. Nicholas Sparks and Stephenie Meyer aren't the greatest wordsmiths, but they take ppl away from life for a while and that takes a good storyteller, just as the Chainsmokers must be good artists to be able to make so many ppl feel good. FATWIFE, First Lady Of GGD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, ryanripley said: ya'll need to learn how to respect an opinion i cant even He asked, what are your thoughts? Is everyone suppose to just agree and nod? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just now, lego said: He asked, what are your thoughts? Is everyone suppose to just agree and nod? you got me there https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Devyn said: i'm not asking for it to be hailed though. There's so much work out there that i find bad but i won't deny it's impact. Then all you're really asking is "Is Closer not so terrible?" Just now, Anastasia said: I wasn't saying they make great music that needs to be hailed by all, just saying that they do in fact have talent, and imo to have the ability to connect with that many ppl and make them smile is something special. Are they Mozart? Absolutely not, but I couldn't even nearly make a song as good as Closer that is that big. Nicholas Sparks and Stephenie Meyer aren't the greatest wordsmiths, but they take ppl away from life for a while and that takes a good storyteller, just as the Chainsmokers must be good artists to be able to make so many ppl feel good. You just compared it to Lemonade though. In any case, it has done well on the charts and Joe and Jane Public is clearly into it, therefore, can it really be that underrated? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunk96 2,526 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 ...You're joking right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anastasia 6,093 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just now, freebit said: Then all you're really asking is "Is Closer not so terrible?" You just compared it to Lemonade though. In any case, it has done well on the charts and Joe and Jane Public is clearly into it, therefore, can it really be that underrated? No I didn't? FATWIFE, First Lady Of GGD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 53,028 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just now, freebit said: Then all you're really asking is "Is Closer not so terrible?" You just compared it to Lemonade though. In any case, it has done well on the charts and Joe and Jane Public is clearly into it, therefore, can it really be that underrated? so closer is not underrated to you. I appreciate your opinion, thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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