AddMeOnMYSPACE 2,020 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Everyone is acting like she sacrifices babies or grandmothers. They're chickens for god sakes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverlyhills 287 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 hour ago, AntiPotCrusader said: Lol, no hun. If you guys are angry about Azealia killing some chickens then you should be furious at the thousands of baby chicks that are ground up or suffocated every year. The attack on Azealia is hypocritical for non-vegans. It's racist to attack all non-traditional religion. How can you be racist towards a religion, sweetheart? ~ eshalala cundala get up off those d!cks ~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, aquariumlust said: You're a very special snowflake and the world loves you. Santerias and Brujas have been sacrificing chickens for hundreds of years and you'll do very little to change that. I also don't think it's okay for an American white teenager to tell practicing Santerias with roots in Africa how to express their spirituality. It's not up to you and your moral compass to decide what's best for everyone in the world. Not everyone values the life of a chicken and if you do then good for you. Your time and voice would be better spent talking to/caring about the major companies that slaughter chickens in brutal ways every single day by the millions and leave the few hundred thousand Santerias alone and let them be. Idk if unread my comments in this thread but I called out the hypocrisy of people who eat meat and bitch about this. I do spend my time fighting the meat industry and promoting veganism while this will probably be the first and last time I ever have a conversation about this ritualistic **** and for the reasons you said, there's barely any of them left, why target them when there's massive corporations killing millions of chickens yearly? That said, I will criticize any and all animal rights violations. Regardless of why people do it. And ur damn right I'm a snow flake, I am special, so is everyone else. The right wing logic that no one is special is ****ing stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariumlust 115 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, beverlyhills said: How can you be racist towards a religion, sweetheart? Because many religions are actually specific to certain regions. So when a bunch of privileged white Americans with computers hop online and try to dictate how ancient African religions can/can't be practiced it comes off as pretty racist.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, Adakam said: And perpetuating the idea that being vegan will save the animal kingdom dismissing all the issues I mentioned is killing even more animals. Can we have a conversation about fur without bringing food to the conversation? to really discuss the fur industry, its branches, and figure out solutions? Not in GGD. As long as we keep the food insurer problems in the minds of the public, then yes we can talk about that but we can't let the public think they're innocent if they're eating meat. That was more my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 43,035 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Are SJWs really defending animal sacrifice and built up layers of blood and feathers in someone's home because it's 'religion'. She isn't religious, she's psycopathic. I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 are we REALLY doing this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 7 minutes ago, Enigma said: Can you tell exactly how much a plant suffers when you kill one? We just don't know for sure. There have been studies that show that plants are under stress you you kill one. there has Also been studies that bring the possibility that other organs other then the brain also "think". Also if pain is the concern then why does "who suffered more" matter? Pain is pain. Also can we kill animals under anesthetics? Even if u killed with ansethetics, the lives of the animals we use are still awful. Factory farms use animals that feel pain everyday of their lives both physically and emotionally. It can't be compared to growing crops. And if ur next question is, "what if we get rid of factory farms and animals live nice cozy lives and then are killed painlessly" then my answer is that that senario is far, far away from reality and we can discuss it when it happens or is even close to happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverlyhills 287 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, aquariumlust said: Because many religions are actually specific to certain regions. So when a bunch of privileged white Americans with computers hop online and try to dictate how ancient African religions can/can't be practiced it comes off as pretty racist.... No it's not racist because they're not attacking the African race, they're attacking the religion which just so happens to be in Africa. It may come off racist to you but maybe you should pick up a dictionary or look up the word "racism". What you're describing is just prejudice. ~ eshalala cundala get up off those d!cks ~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioIsOurs 13,876 Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 1 minute ago, Helxig said: Are SJWs really defending animal sacrifice and built up layers of blood and feathers in someone's home because it's 'religion'. She isn't religious, she's psycopathic. It's more about pointing out the hypocrisy in people's judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayonetta 9,844 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, Enigma said: There are studies that show that plants could also feel pain. http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/new-research-plant-intelligence-may-forever-change-how-you-think-about-plants This is inconclusive but the possibility is there. Also if pain is the issue then can we kill animals if they have anesthetics before they are killed? 1 They may feel pain, but they have no emotional intelligence or capacity to then care about the pain, which differentiates them for animals. Anyways, whether plants feel pain or not are beside the subject, the original point you brought up is that if you aren't eating the animal (which we are for some reason assuming Azealia hasn't) then you are bad person and are deserving of any hate you get. So with that logic, your point applies to people who waste their meat products (ex. forgetting to cook a chicken in their fridge and it goes off or simply not finishing their food). @ Everyone: I'm not an Azealia fan so don't think I am, but I do respect her religious beliefs and think it's hypocritical to an extent if you eat meat and think what she's doing is bad (I'm not vegan or vegetarian) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariumlust 115 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 7 minutes ago, beverlyhills said: No it's racist because they're not attacking the African race, they're attacking the religion which just so happens to be in Africa. It may come off racist to you but maybe you should pick up a dictionary or look up the word "racism". What you're describing is just prejudice. I really don't think prejudice is a strong enough word for a bunch of horrified white people on a forum telling ancient african religious practitioners that they are psychopaths and monsters. In fact, Witchcraft itself is a worship of nature and we have a very very deep respect for life. When these "psychopaths" "slaughter" a chicken they are doing it with deep respect and in a very ceremonious way and the chicken is often blessed and treated extremely well before the sacrifice to keep it clean for the god. In my religion we have a deep respect for nature, we worship it, and we understand the impact of killing another living thing. I don't practice animal sacrifice and most wiccans, witches, and even satanists don't either but those that do do so with spiritual respect for their god. Because you don't understand it, you are quick to call it crazy and criticize even though you are extremely ignorant about other races and religions apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayonetta 9,844 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, Helxig said: Are SJWs really defending animal sacrifice and built up layers of blood and feathers in someone's home because it's 'religion'. She isn't religious, she's psycopathic. 1 I don't think you can decide what is a religion or not, but I do agree that anyone who partakes in any sacrifices has something wrong with them + not cleaning up that mess till now is ****ed purely for hygienic reasons Also why is it whenever someone has a view that is in support of something they are immediately called SJW as an insult, like.... people can be in support of things without being SJW's, it's just our opinion, so chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,094 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 17 minutes ago, Enigma said: There are studies that show that plants could also feel pain. http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/new-research-plant-intelligence-may-forever-change-how-you-think-about-plants This is inconclusive but the possibility is there. Also if pain is the issue then can we kill animals if they have anesthetics before they are killed? The link showed no studies that show plants could feel pain... There is discussion over sensory abilities. It's not a question, it's not a possibility, plants cannot feel pain. Animal suffering is far more complicated than "give them anesthetics!" we are talking about a lot of suffering while these animals are living and reared. The animals who we use for food are emotionally complex, intelligent beings with rich experiences of the world. Most will never see the sun, feel the earth under their feet, nurture their young, build a nest, roost, forage for food or socialise. There is significant emotional stress and trauma these animals experience when in captivity, when huddled together in small spaces, when separated early from their mothers, when branded, when mutilated. The starvation and dehydration many of them feel, being forced to give birth on concrete. In terms of chickens, most of them spend their entire lives in filthy sheds with tens of thousands of other birds, where intense crowding and confinement lead to outbreaks of disease. They’re bred and drugged to grow so large so quickly that their legs and organs can’t keep up, making heart attacks, organ failure, and crippling leg deformities common. Many become crippled under their own weight and eventually die because they can’t reach the water nozzles. At the slaughterhouse, their legs are forced into shackles, their throats are cut, and they’re immersed in scalding-hot water to remove their feathers. Because they have no federal legal protection (birds are exempt from the Humane Slaughter Act), almost all chickens are still conscious when their throats are cut, and many are literally scalded to death in the feather-removal tanks after missing the throat cutter. Those raised for eggs are crammed together inside wire cages where they don’t even have enough room to spread their wings. Because the hens are crammed so closely together, these normally clean animals are forced to urinate and defecate on one another. The birds have part of their sensitive beaks cut off so that they won’t peck each other out of frustration created by the unnatural confinement. The suffering of animals is just not comparable to harvesting plants - at all. Even if plants could feel pain (which I want to really stress, they clearly don't), it would still be more ethical for us to eat plants. The animals are fed more plants, the plants can live and thrive in conditions they are grown in for farming, they cannot feel emotional pain and trauma like animals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwings 12,885 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 12 minutes ago, Helxig said: Are SJWs really defending animal sacrifice and built up layers of blood and feathers in someone's home because it's 'religion'. She isn't religious, she's psycopathic. There have been a LOT of mental gymnastics going on today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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