Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just now, MarryTheKnight said: you were defending azealia because you were comparing the torture of animals for food to the torture of animals for her voodoo sacrifices that clearly have not positively impacted her career so they dont even work i was pointing out the fact that what she is doing does not only harm the chickens but also the OTHER PEOPLE who live in a close vicinity to her because of the diseases that these dead chickens can carry and the fact that she is doing this on property that she doesn't even own.... I was replying to a post about the suffering of animals and said that the animals suffer less this way than they would being killed for food so again, nothing to do with what I said And yeah, I am defending her because I don't think slaughtering chickens is bad. Chickens are bred to die, better they die in a more humane way than they do at the butchers. Not to mention this is her religion I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerFear 5,915 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I am a flop I have to rewrite my comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife 6,896 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Those poor chickens being sacrificed to further a hopeless cause. Like, Azealia could bring about the extinction of chickens through sacrifice and she still wouldn't be any closer to mattering. A mess, a kii, a cackle indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, codymonster said: That's not my point though... My point is that at least if someone is eating it it's being used for something productive. That's like saying that destroying trees for no purpose is the same as cutting down trees for making paper or building a log house. Yes, knocking down trees is not the best, but doing it for no reason is 100% more terrible.. The end doesn't justify the means. It's the exact same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
codymonster 8,598 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said: Chickens are slaughtered for all sorts of useless reasons and we still eat them though. Does the world really need pub-style breaded chicken strips Again, not debating whether it's humane or not to eat meat. What I'm saying is it at least makes more sense to eat a chicken for sustenance than to kill a chicken for no purpose... That's just a waste of a life in my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdino 31,997 Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Knife said: Those poor chickens being sacrificed to further a hopeless cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarryTheKnight 2,181 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just now, Saint Laurent said: I was replying to a post about the suffering of animals and said that the animals suffer less this way than they would being killed for food so again, nothing to do with what I said And yeah, I am defending her because I don't think slaughtering chickens is bad. Chickens are bred to die, better they die in a more humane way than they do at the butchers. Not to mention this is her religion I think. again, i was pointing out another circumstance to consider that isn't related to how much the chicken suffers (as you point out, they are bred to die and aren't that useful of a species besides food) my post is related to the well-being of other people when you kill animals and don't properly dispose of their carcasses. it's called a health issue and i hope she gets kicked out of her apartment building and becomes homeless once and for all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdino 31,997 Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 and not to mention we also kill animals FOR LOOKS!!!!! (clothes and makeup) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, MarryTheKnight said: again, i was pointing out another circumstance to consider that isn't related to how much the chicken suffers (as you point out, they are bred to die and aren't that useful of a species besides food) my post is related to the well-being of other people when you kill animals and don't properly dispose of their carcasses. it's called a health issue and i hope she gets kicked out of her apartment building and becomes homeless once and for all. You disgust me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
codymonster 8,598 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Saint Laurent said: The end doesn't justify the means. It's the exact same thing. So picking flowers for a bouquet is the same as running around ripping flowers out of the ground just for the sake of killing them...? But okay, we clearly disagree, so whatever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, MarryTheKnight said:tbh ur right I do not know much about witchcraft, even the sub-group of witchcraft azealia pretends to be apart of. But it seems to be a group that is on the fringe. The fact that she is a person of "influence" () and is promoting a religion that tortures animals is very problematic. It's clear she has extreme psychological and emotional problems (See: the story of her attacking Russel Crowe and then claiming he called her the n word and hit her). She needs to just disappear of the internet and check into a facility. It's very controversial but as I said, you can argue that it's not different to any other religion/beliefs. Witchcraft is heavily practiced in Latin America, Africa, Europe and America. May as well lock them all in a facility too. She probably posted this to intimidate people and make headlines. If so, it looks like she got what she wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerFear 5,915 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, monsterdino said: no u are not worse, but u don't have the right to brag about Azealia bc she kills animals...bc u are basically supporting that since u eat animal products 8 minutes ago, Edonis said: Okay stop. People kill animals to consume their meat. This is NOT the same as something killing animal with the intention of "curing others" and casting "spells". If we're talking about religious sacrifices, then let's talk about those. The first one that comes to mind is kosher/halal laws. Both are done in clean areas and have someone praying for forgiveness for killing an animal. Then the animal is consumed. Not the same thing. Relgious holiday sacrifices. Also done in sanitary places with a professional butcher on hand. And believe it or not, there are actually less cruel means for handling animals for consumption. That's not a very popular topic to discuss, especially amongst the vegan community who believes that any form of killing an animal is is cruel, etc. but there are actually less painful and quicker ways. It's upsetting. At the end of the day someone is taking another life, but they're consuming the meat, meeting full cycle of nature's progression. If you want to be honest, in some ways it is more healthy to be vegan. You don't consume the sulfur that meat possesses, it doesn't have as harmful long term effects, BUT, there isn't actually any true way of being completely animal free. Children born depend on milk fats for survival and brain development. There is currently no successful means of artificially producing animal free milk fats that are suitable for infant consumption. Vaccines that we all take are made through animals. They are incubated in live organisms and then engineered in a laboratory. If we're talking from an evolutionary biology standpoint, we have enzymes in our body that have to ability to aide in protein degradation and animal protein degradation, believed to be necessary for our ancestors who couldn't farm or who lived in very dry, arid climates that didn't support much flora for consumption. All of this being said, how can you still compare what Azealea Banks is doing to killing animals for meat consumption. It really isn't the same thing. Religions that do this aren't doing that for the sake of casting spells. So I don't get why this is being spread around on this thread? And I'm not just addressing you, so please I apologize if this feels like an attack, I just didn't want to quote every single person. I am not bragging about her so you shouldn't generalize. And this is what I would also say basically but my english skills are not as superior so thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Laurent 4,862 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just now, codymonster said: So picking flowers for a bouquet is the same as running around ripping flowers out of the ground just for the sake of killing them...? But okay, we clearly disagree, so whatever Yeah it's exactly the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
codymonster 8,598 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just now, Saint Laurent said: Yeah it's exactly the same. Okay, you do you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarryTheKnight 2,181 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Saint Laurent said: You disgust me. Oh please, should I bring out the laundry list of threats and things she has said to people which are far worse than wishing she receives repercussions for her lease violating actions? If you are defending someone who is actually disgusting, you should not associate me with that term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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