Guest Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 The purpose of this song being released as a single was to do well on charts, otherwise Gaga wouldn't have changed the single selection during the time MR charted higher than the original A-YO. MR surely had some impact to make more people aware of her stripped-down album and her vocal ability but that's it. MR is dead now. Let's hope single #3 will do better than PI cuz that's what we all expected from a Gaga single tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,795 Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 16 minutes ago, A Gaga Lad said: on the radio. Did it even break 50 in the BB100? Radio gives a better idea of comulative success in a way... Cuz BB Hot 100 to a large extent depends on how high AI, Sales and Streams coincide in a specific week For example if the big sales weeks we had from promo happened now when MR was top 10 on itunes happened now instead of weeks ago it would peak way higher... Doesnt mean its comulative success was any different Some of you call PI a moderate hit because of its debut position on first week was inside top 20 yet by many measures MR has already surpassed PIs success Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,795 Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: It was #52 on the Hot 100, that is considered a flop. PI would be considered a moderate hit/underperformance since it was #15. That was because it was lead single and sold a decent amount first week thats why rankings can be deceiving MR already sold almost as much as PI and surpassed it on shazam and got more sharing/covers On radio its also holding more longevity Its cumulative success is comperable to PI. U guys are paying too much attention to peak position which has many variables Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Economy said: That was because it was lead single and sold a decent amount first week thats why rankings can be deceiving MR already sold almost as much as PI and surpassed it on shazam and got more sharing/covers On radio its also holding more longevity Its cumulative success is comperable to PI. U guys are paying too much attention to peak position which has many variables A song that peaks before Top 40 is not considered a hit at all. I still have faith MR could be a top 10 hit but it depends if radio starts playing it early January. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,389 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, tizian said: The purpose of this song being released as a single was to do well on charts, otherwise Gaga wouldn't have changed the single selection during the time MR charted higher than the original A-YO. MR surely had some impact to make more people aware of her stripped-down album and her vocal ability but that's it. MR is dead now. Let's hope single #3 will do better than PI cuz that's what we all expected from a Gaga single tbh. You think we are actually gonna get a 3rd single? I mean I'm still waiting for a remix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
me069 284 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 35 minutes ago, Economy said: Its hard for a ballad to go into power Rotation unless its Adele. I agree 101% on this. It's risky sending a ballad to the radios especially this season. I think it performed ok even though I still haven't heard it once on a local radio station. I'm not even sure anymore if anything on Joanne will smash for sure. DIC is my personal (and I think fan) favourite but it's too specific a sound to be liked by everyone. John Wayne could do ok but it might sound too country to the GP. Honestly I went off-topic already. Sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,795 Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: A song that peaks before Top 40 is not considered a hit at all. I still have faith MR could be a top 10 hit but it depends if radio starts playing it early January. I dont think they will. Once a song hits top 30 in spins it has enough coverage to spread and increase quickly if it was gonna explode But wed never get updates higher than +80 spins christmas freeze doesnt mean anything cuzany others increased more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeo 2,366 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I think the word "hit" has different meanings and stuff. Perfect Illusion had the impact of being the "LEAD", "Lady Gaga Return", etc. It peaked #15. Million Reasons peaked at #52 (?) but it already outsold Perfect Illusion sales. But it's dead on the radio + streams and that's the "bad thing". Sometimes a "HIT" is not really a song that makes a top10 peak but just a "Known" song. Like Run the World (Girls) from Bey. It wasn't even top 15 but it's a "known" song cuz she promoted the hell out of it. It's not a SMASH hit, but it's a "Hit" inside her career because people KNOW the song... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Yeah MR was pretty much a flop. Actually I wouldn't even call it that because that would mean people are aware of it and still chose not to listen/buy whereas people just didn't even know about it. PI was a moderate sized hit but again it still didn't have much impact or become universally known. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,795 Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, me069 said: I agree 101% on this. It's risky sending a ballad to the radios especially this season. I think it performed ok even though I still haven't heard it once on a local radio station. I'm not even sure anymore if anything on Joanne will smash for sure. DIC is my personal (and I think fan) favourite but it's too specific a sound to be liked by everyone. John Wayne could do ok but it might sound too country to the GP. Honestly I went off-topic already. Sorry Thats what ive said about DIC. Its very specific and sounds a little creepy and dark i dont see it doing well A-YO and Diamond heart MAYBE can be moderate hits Thats all i see tbh. I dont see any smashes from this album Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I still don't know how radio, like, didn't do anything to play it, considering how much it sold. Granted, I don't know how radio works. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 26 minutes ago, Economy said: Radio gives a better idea of comulative success in a way... not really, no. Radio only picked it up way after MR stabilized in the top 10 of iTunes for several days (weeks?) while it was spinning songs that weren't even in the iTunes top 15. MR was selling way more than Britney's SP, but SP was getting more spins because of her iHeart crap, and this had an effect on smaller radios, I suppose. Rihanna and Adele's songs were riding on their name and not on their current sales 27 minutes ago, Economy said: Cuz BB Hot 100 to a large extent depends on how high AI, Sales and Streams coincide in a specific week For example if the big sales weeks we had from promo happened now when MR was top 10 on itunes happened now instead of weeks ago it would peak way higher... Part of this I already explained above. If MR was a hit, it should be selling more even since it's the holidays and boxing week is tomorrow. It is unfortunate that the radio was not willing to budge despite MR's more-than-decent sales, but if it really was taking off, then the sales shouldn't have been dropping. 31 minutes ago, Economy said: Some of you call PI a moderate hit because of its debut position on first week was inside top 20 yet by many measures MR has already surpassed PIs success I don't deny that MR already surpassed PI in many metrics, but the BB100 (both peak and longevity) is still the main indicator of a song's successful run. PI had a decent peak but no longevity, MR has neither. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,901 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 longevity and doing well on iTunes and doing really well without promo in Europe beyond the UK tbh. It's a hit whether the dumb-asses who are so upset over her musical evolution want to admit it or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
me069 284 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Economy said: Thats what ive said about DIC. Its very specific and sounds a little creepy and dark i dont see it doing well A-YO and Diamond heart MAYBE can be moderate hits Thats all i see tbh. I dont see any smashes from this album Great minds think alike 53 minutes ago, gagzus said: longevity and doing well on iTunes and doing really well without promo in Europe beyond the UK tbh. It's a hit whether the dumb-asses who are so upset over her musical evolution want to admit it or not Not everyone likes country She dived in country so fast that it didn't even have the transition Taylor had Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,901 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, me069 said: Great minds think alike Not everyone likes country She dived in country so fast that it didn't even have the transition Taylor had The song itself isn't stereotypically country and sounds more like a modern pop ballad tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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