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Did the hip change everything?


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Where would we have been if that hip did not break?

What would ARTPOP be like?

Would we have Joanne today?

How would her success be? Would it change? 

What would things be like if the hip didn't break?

 

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AVeryGagaHolyDick

The hip didn't change anything imo

I mean... she has been able to dance to ARTPOP, I don't think the concept of the album changed because of her hip

The only difference is that she didn't finish the BTWB

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I honestly believe EVERYTHING would have been different, there would be no hospital for Troy not to visit her in, there would have been a whole tour (maybe even a film or tv special of it) and then a huge perfume launch straight after. AND because of all of this Gaga may have looked more succesful and Troy and her team might have been more on board with ARTPOP (if it happened) and we could have had an amazing era there

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Saint Laurent

I think that ARTPOP would have been more organic, less 'psychedelic' if you will, which may have made the quality better.

Nevertheless, she probably would have released ARTPOP sooner and the overexposure would have been very damaging.

She'd probably still be managed by Troy, also.

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KennyRichie

The BTWBall would have finished with more than 200$ million dolars, the last concert would have finished with the lead single of ARTPOP. 

Maybe the jazz and the acting would have happened but a little bit more succesfull. Just as the ARTPOP and Joanne singles. 

For me the hip was the beginning of her downfall of fame.

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AVeryGagaHolyDick
3 minutes ago, Saint Laurent said:

She'd probably still be managed by Troy, also.

No, she told in a french interview that she fired him because he didn't want her to release Cheek To Cheek, it wasn't commercial enough for him :giveup:

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I dunno, but a lot of things seem to have gone wrong besides the hip. it's hard to believe everything we've been told and there's so many versions of what went wrong or didn't go as planned that i can't even have an actual opinion. Plus there's so many strange facts. Like if Gaga was so mad at Troy for not being at the hospital, why did she fire him only after the ARTPOP era started for example. I could go on and on about it, but yeah... we'll never know what really happened behind the scenes after the hip happened.

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Cailleach

Lots actually. If she didn't break her hip then she wouldn't have taken drugs to take away the pain and she wouldn't have been high while writing ARTPOP which means she wouldn't have kept changing the concept all the time. So basically ARTPOP would be totally different. Some of the 2012 looks would have been part of the era. She still would have made Joanne because she still would have been famous and still would have been sick of all the fame and wanted to spend time with her family. 

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1 minute ago, kevindjibouti said:

No, she told in a french interview that she fired him because he didn't want her to release Cheek To Cheek, it wasn't commercial enough for him

He left her though, and then he lied and said he was fired 

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1 minute ago, princetomc said:

He left her though, and then he lied and said he was fired 

but Gaga told that it was her decision. She wanted to free herself musically talking

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PopThatArt

Not an oracle but truth and time tell all... Also, just a side note, it always annoys me when Monsters make jokes about how our sweet Gaga broke her hip. It and it's aftermath are one of the things that contribute to her PTSD. 

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She had been working non-stop since her rise to fame when it happened. That amount of stress can't be good on anybody, physically or mentally. Not to sound real dark, but I always wondered if she didn't break her hip, that something much worse would have happened. :ohno:

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i think ARTPOP wouls have gone differently, all of her decisions with the haus would have gone differntly. i just can never get over troy's behavior. he overworked her & she didn't feel like she could say no completely & then once she was physically broken he just discarded her like a broken toy, like she was nothing. her hip never wold have broken if him & her team would have treated her like an actual human being. 

i think a lot of things went down behind the scenes. i remember when this all happened & i was confused bc of the info that came out. but lately ppl on here have been talking about it more. i read all about her ex assistant, saw the video of her not being able to finish the choreo during btwb, have been reading the disection ARTPOP is now getting. its all very illuminating. 

maybe if she hadn't been so overworked...troy would have just kept pushing her to acieve fame like no one ever has before. i mean she reached the top & is compared to michael jackson & prince in terms of how fame deals with her & how she deals with fame. 

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