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Supersonic
Just now, BuzzcutSeason said:

I was comparing in quality not viewer stats it was more of which song is better. 

 

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Chart Discussion: Million Reasons / Joanne

Not a place to meltdown over you personally not liking the single lmfao

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3 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said:

I was comparing in quality not viewer stats it was more of which song is better. 

 

:toofunny:

Even in quality terms MR is better.

MR Audio = 1080p

DWUW Audio = 720p

 

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A cruel king made me tough / This boy's never good enough
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BuzzcutSeason
1 minute ago, Supersonic said:

Chart Discussion: Million Reasons / Joanne

Not a place to meltdown over you personally not liking the single lmfao

I used evidence in my post that was just an extra thing. 

3 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

It seemed like your post was implying that Joanne is currently just doing so well because of the "hype", so I was responding to that. If you wanted to address something diffrent, my bad.

I just thought it's funny that people now start saying that the album was doing so well because of hype, when 3 months ago you couldn't escape the meltdowns of Joanne being destined to flop.

I wasn't really on the site three months ago (i was a member but i wasn't active) and the era really has been underperforming since the beginning. The first week sales of Joanne were shocking actually, even predictions were raised halfway through the week and i'd say thats because of the amount of promotion that went into the album that week. I wouldn't say the album is doing well though.

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4 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said:

I was comparing in quality not viewer stats it was more of which song is better. 

 

:toofunny:

How can you compare a sexy RnB song with a folk ballad? You can't say one of these songs is "better" than the other. They are two way different genres. You can say that you prefer one of these songs over the other. 

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Supersonic
4 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said:

I used evidence in my post that was just an extra thing. 

I wasn't really on the site three months ago (i was a member but i wasn't active) and the era really has been underperforming since the beginning. The first week sales of Joanne were shocking actually, even predictions were raised halfway through the week and i'd say thats because of the amount of promotion that went into the album that week. I wouldn't say the album is doing well though.

....Underperforming? Huh?

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Closing out to 400k while being at the second single and the album era's end not in sight is FAR from underperforming in this day and age. Especially when you consider that like... barely 30 albums crossed 400k in 2016. She hasn't even left the the top 30 sales chart ever since the album got released. U been on ATRL too much  where people try their best to convince others that Gaga is a flop or what?

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Kworb projections:

Shape of You - 270k (+23k)

Castle On The Hill - 187k (+5k)

SOY is 100% debuting at #1 now

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BuzzcutSeason
22 minutes ago, GagaXCupcakke said:

How can you compare a sexy RnB song with a folk ballad? You can't say one of these songs is "better" than the other. They are two way different genres. You can say that you prefer one of these songs over the other. 

For Top 40 Radio.

19 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

....Underperforming? Huh?

:deadbanana:

Closing out to 400k while being at the second single and the album era's end not in sight is FAR from underperforming in this day and age. Especially when you consider that like... barely 30 albums crossed 400k in 2016. She hasn't even left the the top 30 sales chart ever since the album got released. U been on ATRL too much  where people try their best to convince others that Gaga is a flop or what?

No, i'm not on ATRL. What i've seen is that Gaga has no presence on streaming services. Million Reasons hasn't at all taken off and i don't have the stats right in front of me but it doesn't seem like she's shown much growth in streaming at all i.e Daily Play Counts. I'm not positive on when she crossed 400K but with 200K during a first week it seems kinda clear the album was front loaded.

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4 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said:

For Top 40 Radio.

No, i'm not on ATRL. What i've seen is that Gaga has no presence on streaming services. Million Reasons hasn't at all taken off and i don't have the stats right in front of me but it doesn't seem like she's shown much growth in streaming at all i.e Daily Play Counts. I'm not positive on when she crossed 400K but with 200K during a first week it seems kinda clear the album was front loaded.

The album was not front loaded what are you talking about?

US: 170k-43k-18k-11k-21k-24k-19k-18k-28k-18k-7k

WW: 314k-104k-59k-48k-49k-45k-43k-45k-58k-46k-24k

 

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Just now, BuzzcutSeason said:

For Top 40 Radio.

No, i'm not on ATRL. What i've seen is that Gaga has no presence on streaming services. Million Reasons hasn't at all taken off and i don't have the stats right in front of me but it doesn't seem like she's shown much growth in streaming at all i.e Daily Play Counts. I'm not positive on when she crossed 400K but with 200K during a first week it seems kinda clear the album was front loaded.

If you wanna take SPS figures, she's actually well over 500k on her way to 600k now, I was talking about pure sales. :nick:

MR isn't taking off because radio refuses to play her in a monster-esque "Maybe she will learn from this and serve bops the next time" hissyfit. The song has virtually no airplay and still hangs around in the 60's of iTunes. Rihanna has almost 10 times the airplay, gets massive updates every day and barely wiggles around in the 30's and 20's.

I gotta say tho, she really does not have a good presence in on Spotify, but judging from who actually bought the album it seems like the main chunk doesn't actually use streaming. Plus, it's hard to build one when your songs get mysteriously removed from major playlists after one week (if they're even added at all.)

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4 hours ago, ViviLittleM said:

So on Twitter I searched 'Lady Gaga Super Bowl' and nearly all the tweets are negative :poot:

like: "can't wait to turn off my TV during the HalfTime Show" :poot:

so a lot of people still don't know that she's the voice of our generation :poot:

They're still gonna watch it, they want to see what crazy thing she'll do. It's not like many people who are excited about it randomly tweet about it in the middle of January anyways.

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8 minutes ago, BuzzcutSeason said:

For Top 40 Radio.

No, i'm not on ATRL. What i've seen is that Gaga has no presence on streaming services. Million Reasons hasn't at all taken off and i don't have the stats right in front of me but it doesn't seem like she's shown much growth in streaming at all i.e Daily Play Counts. I'm not positive on when she crossed 400K but with 200K during a first week it seems kinda clear the album was front loaded.

that's how the industry works now, the average ratio of first week sales:total sales used to be upwards of 1:20 and 1:30 but is now around 1:3. It affects everyone. 

Dangerous Woman - 130k:320k

Anti: 130k:600k

Lemonade: 450k:1.5m

25: 3.4m:9m

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Joanne has had  success in album sales, it's stupid to pretend otherwise

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16 hours ago, Torturo said:

they are more relevant than Gaga in 2016 :diane:

They're a fad. Gaga is eternal. These guys are tomorrow's regret. 

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I cant at people still blaming million reasons as a song for its under peformance :toofunny: It's clear if radios were playing her like they should the single would already be top 10 right now if not higher since the gp loves million reasons. Also streaming is a problem because lack of playlists on spotify something flop singels even have making them have high streams.

Just look at italy, the radios were playing million reasons since the start and it's been top 10 on iTunes since forever and got playlisted on spotify recently making the song stable in the top 50 most streamed songs, still growing along with new peaks on offical charts  (peaking 13 this week). This would be the case WW if the song was top 20 on overall radio everywhere.

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BuzzcutSeason
47 minutes ago, BloodyMonster said:

The album was not front loaded what are you talking about?

US: 170k-43k-18k-11k-21k-24k-19k-18k-28k-18k-7k

WW: 314k-104k-59k-48k-49k-45k-43k-45k-58k-46k-24k

 

It wasn't front loaded there was a bad drop this week but i looked at the wrong thing its doing fine. My mistake. 

42 minutes ago, NickARTPOP said:

that's how the industry works now, the average ratio of first week sales:total sales used to be upwards of 1:20 and 1:30 but is now around 1:3. It affects everyone. 

Dangerous Woman - 130k:320k

Anti: 130k:600k

Lemonade: 450k:1.5m

25: 3.4m:9m

I was aware of the sales drop (Like 50% since 2013) i just was dumb looking at the wrong things about Gaga's sales. 

47 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

If you wanna take SPS figures, she's actually well over 500k on her way to 600k now, I was talking about pure sales. :nick:

MR isn't taking off because radio refuses to play her in a monster-esque "Maybe she will learn from this and serve bops the next time" hissyfit. The song has virtually no airplay and still hangs around in the 60's of iTunes. Rihanna has almost 10 times the airplay, gets massive updates every day and barely wiggles around in the 30's and 20's.

I gotta say tho, she really does not have a good presence in on Spotify, but judging from who actually bought the album it seems like the main chunk doesn't actually use streaming. Plus, it's hard to build one when your songs get mysteriously removed from major playlists after one week (if they're even added at all.)

I thought she was at 400K SPS, so i'm sorry for that. Million Reasons i don't think is taking off for a number of reasons, it might be the fact its a country-esque song but in this year a song needs more than radio to survive. Radio Stations go by how a song is doing on other formats in order to decide if they'll play it or not which is kind of a messy system.

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