SMILE2NE1 3,566 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I was rewatching old interviews, in fact the first interview I watched of hers 8 years ago, and I came to the realisation that after fame, she seems so much unhappier now, and this reflects in her work. She was so joyful back in the day, look at her talk about her work in the below interview. She's talking about lifestyle, culture and how to self proclaim your own fame. Then I look at her interviews as of late and it's like she's always complaining about something - whether it's about the illusion in social media, how her record label treated her, how the media is talking about her weight, how the men in her life treat her, how she was held to a very high standard during ARTPOP, how other artists are like factories and she's legitimate in the studio, and especially how she is unable to make human connections with people as a famous person. The big change I see in her is that she let her artistry speak for itself in the past whereas I see she started to play the victim since the end of BTW and she started to retract herself, whereas before that, she was always about being above the situation. I think the prime example is the message of DWUW, if you don't respect her, she will retract herself as an artist. I liked the girl that let it bounce off, but it just seems that as of late, she is really letting fame get to her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 She is really over-talking at times, but.... Seems like when she goes to an interview her only aim is to "victimize" herself, while back then she was talking about the nice and beautiful things in life. Now, she seems.... disappointed, idk.. But, maybe she has changed and we have to deal with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster1998 82 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Its really sad tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIghtmareElm 2,606 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 She is always talking about feeling bad. Honestly it's ever since Marry the Night flopped. Not trying to be mean but she was never this sad when she was putting out hit after hit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He8MyHeart 9,765 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 She used to be so happy and fun in her interviews. I miss this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunir 7,510 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 i don't agree with anything you wrote except that she's changed people change. get over it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMILE2NE1 3,566 Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 minute ago, MaryJaneHolland said: She is really over-talking at times, but.... Seems like when she goes to an interview her only aim is to "victimize" herself, while back then she was talking about the nice and beautiful things in life. I agree - and people naturally gravitate toward positivity which is why I enjoyed her old self so much. Not that I want her to deny who she is now for the sake of other people liking her, but I prefer the strong girl who was the master of fame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Listen, she was new to the game, she had plenty to prove, that fire to make it. As a young artist you want to be known you just don't know what it takes and what it costs you to get there and I'm not talking about money. The parts that she didn't like she just covered up with substance abuse or other forms coping mechanisms. So yes she aged, matured and foremost she got the experience now, for years. I'm surprided people are surprised that under that constant pressure and demand people crack. She is not the first one and she won't be the last one either we're just being more vocal these days generally speaking about mental issues and that it's just something that is taking place in society rather then just popping pills and march on. Just let the girl breathe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMILE2NE1 3,566 Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Just now, Curunir said: i don't agree with anything you wrote except that she's changed people change. get over it Well most of it is factual so it doesn't need your subjective validation People do change and that's the point of this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Zelda 726 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 She is depressed. Even if she's relatively happy doing Joanne. And it makes total sense and she's in her right to complain as much as she wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMILE2NE1 3,566 Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Just now, Princess Zelda said: She is depressed. Even if she's relatively happy doing Joanne. And it makes total sense and she's in her right to complain as much as she wants. She is absolutely in her right to complain, and I'm not denying her that right, but it's just sad that fame has broken her so much. She used to talk about proclaiming her inner fame, now she wants to hide it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunir 7,510 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 minute ago, SMILE2NE1 said: Well most of it is factual so it doesn't need your subjective validation People do change and that's the point of this thread you need to look beneath the surface a little. this is not about my "subjective validation" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impostor 4,114 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I hope this one doesn't get locked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 minute ago, KleinKnight said: I hope this one doesn't get locked why would it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Zelda 726 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, SMILE2NE1 said: She is absolutely in her right to complain, and I'm not denying her that right, but it's just sad that fame has broken her so much. She used to talk about proclaiming her inner fame, now she wants to hide it. I know, but she was younger, she was less wise and more energetic. I think life starts getting harder with age when you are prone to depression. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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