Ryusei 60,644 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 "and where I'm going" Girl, where do you think you're going? Musery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTV 11,913 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Enough.ย The Lady and the Legend coming soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstereo 1,232 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, SKANK said: Total nonsense. An over acted, poorly directed, fake behind the scenes music video is no more "about your life" than an over elaborate music videos in which you overdose (Mary The Night), or in which you are killed and your money stolen is by businessmen (GUY), or in which you are limping through a tunnel of light with a prosthetic leg (Applause.) Creating compelling visuals and creating personal visuals to accompany her music aren't two different things. She should be doing both. THIS IA 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality 69,944 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, SKANK said: Total nonsense. An over acted, poorly directed, fake behind the scenes music video is no more "about your life" than an over elaborate music videos in which you overdose (Mary The Night), or in which you are killed and your money stolen is by businessmen (GUY), or in which you are limping through a tunnel of light with a prosthetic leg (Applause.) Creating compelling visuals and creating personal visuals to accompany her music aren't two different things. She should be doing both. One of the main purposes of this album was to really focus on the music. Now, that's not to say that she's hasn't for previous albums, sheย certainlyย has, but with this album, it doesn't necessarily need all the theatrics and extravagant outfits. That'sย whyย she only wore crop tops and jean shorts during the PI era; it was because she wanted to focus on the music, and focus on promoting the music, not necessarily the visuals like her previous albums. I know you're already going to say, "But that's what she's known for, that's what she does,", and while I completely agree, it's obvious that with this era we aren't going to get a lot of those same visuals. It's just not realistic with this album, nor does it fit the concept. She's also said to let of previous eras, and while, difficult, she's always going to be a changing artist. If she believes the visuals for that video in particular needed to be at a minimum, then that's what she wanted to do. The main issue I'm seeing is that people wanted some more metaphorical or existential concepts through this video. Sorry, but that's not the direction this particular album is headed. ย ๐ผ ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฏ ๐ฉ๐ธ๐ธ๐ ๐ ๐๐ช๐ฎ๐ธ ๐ช๐น ๐ฏ๐ป๐ธ ๐ ๐ผ๐ข๐ป๐ฏ ๐ฎ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐น๐น Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo cupcakke 4,781 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 You tell them Joanne; tell them what's good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilla 13,346 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 There has to be something underneath the surface she's not telling us. She seems very lost and confused like where is she really going with this? ย ๐ธ'๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ข ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 12 minutes ago, SKANK said: Total nonsense. An over acted, poorly directed, fake behind the scenes music video is no more "about your life" than an over elaborate music videos in which you overdose (Mary The Night), or in which you are killed and your money stolen is by businessmen (GUY), or in which you are limping through a tunnel of light with a prosthetic leg (Applause.) Creating compelling visuals and creating personal visuals to accompany her music aren't two different things. She should be doing both. Say it louder for the delusional people in the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Aura 5,129 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 11 hours ago, M Monstre said: She's also said to let of previous eras, and while, difficult, she's always going to be a changing artist. If she believes the visuals for that video in particular needed to be at a minimum, then that's what she wanted to do. The main issue I'm seeing is that people wanted some more metaphorical or existential concepts through this video. Sorry, but that's not the direction this particular album is headed. ย Am noย . The problem most of us have is that it's poorly directed and edited. We don't mind a simplistic video but at least have it done by a PROFESSIONAL so that it's polished. Simple can be beautiful. But the MR video is just simple.ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, M Monstre said: One of the main purposes of this album was to really focus on the music. Now, that's not to say that she's hasn't for previous albums, sheย certainlyย has, but with this album, it doesn't necessarily need all the theatrics and extravagant outfits. That'sย whyย she only wore crop tops and jean shorts during the PI era; it was because she wanted to focus on the music, and focus on promoting the music, not necessarily the visuals like her previous albums. I know you're already going to say, "But that's what she's known for, that's what she does,", and while I completely agree, it's obvious that with this era we aren't going to get a lot of those same visuals. It's just not realistic with this album, nor does it fit the concept. She's also said to let of previous eras, and while, difficult, she's always going to be a changing artist. If she believes the visuals for that video in particular needed to be at a minimum, then that's what she wanted to do. The main issue I'm seeing is that people wanted some more metaphorical or existential concepts through this video. Sorry, but that's not the direction this particular album is headed. ย ย ย I don't agree with anything you said. You and Gaga are buying into antiquated ideas of what this style of music (Americana, Rock, Country) can accommodate in terms of visual companionship. It's artistically-lazy. I'm not saying she needs to bring back hyper-queer avant-garde imagery. Just compelling and fresh visuals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbrian 98 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 30 minutes ago, Matt Amor said: honestly my problem isn't how it's personal but instead about how badly directed it is, how basic it is and how boring it is.ย EXACTLY. Ever since TEOG video she's had issues using directors for her vidoes (aside from Applause, which is very obviously done by a professional - I&V). I don't really have any issues with the concept of this video, just the execution, which would be solved by hiring a real director. www.brianhowarddesign.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He8MyHeart 9,525 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 19 minutes ago, monstereo said: Excuse you Now THIS is how you make a personal vid for a ballad Omg I forgot how much I loved this videoย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEXODUS 5,920 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Much deeper look at who I am?ย How is it having a party with a bunch of fansย inย the desertย and getting a gift from your sister, playing a guitar dressed in pink something deeper and more personal than accepting your body, your crazier sides, your flaws and whole being as shown in the previous eras? I can't seem to conceive it. Or maybe creative and artistic laziness is where we're actually going.ย Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality 69,944 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, SKANK said: I don't agree with anything you said. You and Gaga are buying into antiquated ideas of what this style of music (Americana, Rock, Country) can accommodate in terms of visual companionship. It's artistically-lazy. I'm not saying she needs to bring back hyper-queer avant-garde imagery. Just compelling and fresh visuals. I'm not saying that this genre of music warrants simple (and to some people, lazy) visuals. What I'm saying is that Gagaย herselfย said that for this particular album, she wanted to really focus on promoting the music itself, not necessarily the outfits and stuff around it. I get what you're trying to say with "compelling and fresh visuals", but to a lot of people, that seems to equate to some more of that "hyper-queer avant-garde imagery". Nowhere did I say that just because this style of music isn't the traditional pop we are used to hearing, we are entitled to simple visuals.ย ๐ผ ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฏ ๐ฉ๐ธ๐ธ๐ ๐ ๐๐ช๐ฎ๐ธ ๐ช๐น ๐ฏ๐ป๐ธ ๐ ๐ผ๐ข๐ป๐ฏ ๐ฎ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐น๐น Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,126 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I was going to write something meatyย but It'll look like I'm repeating myself,ย not worth it. Let's just say that even if she wants to makeย very personal videos (her previous videos are about her lifeย wtf is she talking about?) ifย the execution is faulty, it ruins the whole thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody hooker 6,445 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 It's rather interesting to see fans hate on a Gaga video.ย I like the video, and I have an okayย sense of the deeper meaning of the video. This๏ปฟ mutual gaze was a โlonging to touchโ or a "pre-coitus" stare.๏ปฟ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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