Swan Heart 7,382 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 1 minute ago, The Fame Joanne said: I mean, it's ok she talkes about the bad things she experienced during the ARTPOP era, when she felt the bad side of fame. But it should be enough to mention it once or twice in interviews. Don't make a whole music video about it three years later and talk about it whenever you can. I really don't think normal people who have to work hard every day to make ends meat, feel sorry for a multimillionaire who doesn't like her job, when she doesn't even have to work anymore for her whole life That's ridiculous. Yes, she's rich, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have problems in her life. -.- She's struggled with some alwful things way before the ARTPOP era also and she's still coping with everything that's happened to her, as I thought we all know. (sexual assault, chronic pain, PTSD..). And going through all of this with cameras following you around all the time seems more then terrifying, just from an outside perspective. She's an artists and that is what artists do - express their inner pain. You can't talk about disco sticks when you're feeling like ****, come on.. Really, throwing around such comments so lightheartedly seems insensitive. They say it's the last song. They don't know us, you see. It's only the last song if we let it be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 17 minutes ago, GagaMyBlood95 said: Well that's on them, not even gonna bother convincing them or arguing or whatever, from now on just happy thoughts I with you on that one End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 41,434 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Hateful fans could remain bothered about the video, Gaga keeps winning anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Swan Heart said: That's ridiculous. Yes, she's rich, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have problems in her life. -.- She's struggled with some alwful things way before the ARTPOP era also and she's still coping with everything that's happened to her, as I thought we all know. (sexual assault, chronic pain, PTSD..). And going through all of this with cameras following you around all the time seems more then terrifying, just from an outside perspective. She's an artists and that is what artists do - express their inner pain. You can't talk about disco sticks when you're feeling like ****, come on.. Really, throwing around such comments so lightheartedly seems insensitive. I never said she can't talk as much about her sexual assault as she wants to. And I also never said she shouldn't talk at all about the fact that she had a bad time three years ago. But as I said, she can't expect normal people to feel sorry about her having a hard time in the industry, when many of them have to fear for their existence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bok 267 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 33 minutes ago, Slayer said: Exactly, what the f*ck is the video even about? Apple Music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 25,094 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 35 minutes ago, The Fame Joanne said: I mean, it's ok she talkes about the bad things she experienced during the ARTPOP era, when she felt the bad side of fame. But it should be enough to mention it in one or two interviews. Don't make a whole music video about it three years later and talk about it whenever you can. I really don't think normal people who have to work hard every day to make ends meat, feel sorry for a multimillionaire who doesn't like her job, when she doesn't even have to work anymore for her whole life Do you understand what trauma (the T in PTSD) means? It usually means years or even decades of emotional and mental struggle. Trauma doesnt go away with money and fame. And plenty of people still feel ashamed about it every day. The MR might not have executed it perfectly, but Gaga should still be applauded in the way shes standing up for those with mental ailments. Telling her that she has to stop "complaining" just because shes a millionaire is beyond shallow. Happiness will never last, darkness comes to kick your ass... ᵃˢˢ 🕺 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Watching it the second time, I didn't mind it. I'm still wrapping my head around it though Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bok 267 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 12 minutes ago, HugoMonster said: Hateful fans could remain bothered about the video, Gaga keeps winning anyway We are not hateful when we don't agree with every ****ing thing she does. An artist should be open to critization Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fame Joanne 5,985 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 26 minutes ago, Totodile said: Do you understand what trauma (the T in PTSD) means? It usually means years or even decades of emotional and mental struggle. Trauma doesnt go away with money and fame. And plenty of people still feel ashamed about it every day. The MR might not have executed it perfectly, but Gaga should still be applauded in the way shes standing up for those with mental ailments. Telling her that she has to stop "conplaining" just because shes a millionaire is beyond shallow. I didn't say she shouldn't talk about it at all. But in the last years basically every interview was about how she feels bad a bout fame and I think it's just too much. And money could have helped her because she could have decided to leave, while many people who watch her interviews can not just decide to leave from their jobs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPdidntflop 3,987 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: Watching it the second time, I didn't mind it. I'm still wrapping my head around it though you're cute Gaga x Nicki x Azealia x Ariana x Kesha x Bey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Just now, ARTPOPdidntflop said: you're cute I mean it's my least favorite of hers but again, don't mind it. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brolysskins 4,166 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 45 minutes ago, calmar said: "This isn't easy to reveal." What is "this"? If you were a Super Iconic and Talented Pop star, would you reveal personal issues and mental illnesses, or talk about your rape story and try to help other people see that you have the same issues? Or would you ignore those things and continue to make stupid pop songs about twerking at the club produced by 20 people and only focus on looking hot and sexy... Thats what this woman is doing. She is showing us not everything about a pop stars life is glam and **** like that. So "This" is exactly what she is doing. She chose to help others instead of focusing on getting #1's and filming videos that focus on other ****.... hope this makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmar 22,064 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, Brolysskins said: If you were a Super Iconic and Talented Pop star, would you reveal personal issues and mental illnesses, or talk about your rape story and try to help other people see that you have the same issues? Or would you ignore those things and continue to make stupid pop songs about twerking at the club produced by 20 people and only focus on looking hot and sexy... Thats what this woman is doing. She is showing us not everything about a pop stars life is glam and **** like that. So "This" is exactly what she is doing. She chose to help others instead of focusing on getting #1's and filming videos that focus on other ****.... hope this makes sense. I didn't mean for my post in this thread to come across as negative or condescending. Interpreting the word used in the original IG post to mean 'everything she has been revealing' makes sense. 俺の勝利は揺るぎない Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 41,434 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Bok said: We are not hateful when we don't agree with every ****ing thing she does. An artist should be open to critization If you don't consider you're being hateful why quote me then? Clearly I wasn't talking about you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 41,434 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Bok said: We are not hateful when we don't agree with every ****ing thing she does. An artist should be open to critization Also I'm not talking about licking her ass and act like yesmen towards her. BUT since the video release people has been unreasonably hateful towards her. You don't like the video? Ok. Insult her + her artist integrity because of it? **** it. That's plain stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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