Step into Gagas head...

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2 minutes ago, dannydevito said:

Apple no, but maybe Gaga yes. Both backdrops where white, big deal, as if you would say something like that when BTW and Alejandro backdrops where both black. Did that mean that Gaga was not inspired back then? Again, unless u where there and saw the creative process idk what gives u the right to talk like you own the absolute truth

But like anybody can have a white backdrop in their videos though. Are we supposed to think that the white backdrop in TS's Shake It Off represents her not caring about haters or her ex-man's new girlfriend or some sh!t like that? We can give all sort of excuses for any aspect of a music video, it's up to the viewers interpretation anyways. But the part that Gaga failed on imo is the fact that nobody would have realised that the white backdrop would have any significance, if that was even her intention.  

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1 minute ago, ArtPLAUSE said:

Sorry to tell you that a) BTW and Alejandro videos had something going on in front of the backdrop and b) they were not collages of pieces from commercial outtakes.

If you think this video is deep and artsy, it's up to you. Good luck with that logic. I'd say you are going to validate Gaga becoming less focused on creativity of visuals, but I don't see how it could get any worse.

she's in a different phase of her life, different people around her, different goals. U better get used to her changing them every single day because thats what a real artists does, changes everything about itself. As said by Gaga herself, she doesn't want people to know what she is, because she is nothing and at the same time she can be everything. No reason to stick to crazy outfits and avant garde production if u do the same thing over and over again during ur potentially 20+ years of career...,,that is what i would call boring tbh

[Future Lover 2,588]

This whole thread is just too much.

What "art" is there in this video other than her recycling an old music video and Apple Music commercial? This isn't a high school english class. Not everything has some deep meaning... We're allowed to dislike it. Compared to the rest of her music videos this is the laziest one she's done.

[pedrohemg 7,802]

You can put all your emotions, feelings, passions, personal life or whatever the **** in a video and still make a GREAT video. The problem is MR mv is a poor one. Every Lana Del Rey video is far better then MR.

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1 minute ago, RainbowBlonde said:

But like anybody can have a white backdrop in their videos though. Are we supposed to think that the white backdrop in TS's Shake It Off represents her not caring about haters or her ex-man's new girlfriend or some sh!t like that? We can give all sort of excuses for any aspect of a music video, it's up to the viewers interpretation anyways. But the part that Gaga failed on imo is the fact that nobody would have realised that the white backdrop would have any significance, if that was even her intention.  

i bet u nobody know whats going on during videos like Bad Romance or Born This Way,but they both were huge hits and BR was even the most watched Youtube video for a long time.

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Just now, dannydevito said:

i bet u nobody know whats going on during videos like Bad Romance or Born This Way,but they both were huge hits and BR was even the most watched Youtube video for a long time.

At least people can acknowledge that SOMETHING was going on? 

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Just now, RainbowBlonde said:

At least people can acknowledge that SOMETHING was going on? 

well if MR was about her singing in front of the white backdrop during 4 mins ur argument would make sense, but there are other scenes you know

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Just now, dannydevito said:

she's in a different phase of her life, different people around her, different goals. U better get used to her changing them every single day because thats what a real artists does, changes everything about itself. As said by Gaga herself, she doesn't want people to know what she is, because she is nothing and at the same time she can be everything. No reason to stick to crazy outfits and avant garde production if u do the same thing over and over again during ur potentially 20+ years of career...,,that is what i would call boring tbh

 First of all, changing everything about oneself is not artistic. It means you have no coherent theoretical design to back up your evolution. TFM to BTW transition was fairly radical, but she managed to do it keeping a common cultural background.

Secondly, you do not have to either wear meat everyday. You can be original without. This video is not. If you don't think so, good for you, but it's factually true (recycled scenes etc.)

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Just now, dannydevito said:

well if MR was about her singing in front of the white backdrop during 4 mins ur argument would make sense, but there are other scenes you know

Well you were the one who chose to focus on that freaking white backdrop though... The point about it was that it was reused from another project, but then you had to create some sort of artsy mambo jumbo out of it

[ArtPLAUSE 1,252]

7 minutes ago, RainbowBlonde said:

 nobody would have realised that the white backdrop would have any significance, if that was even her intention.  

I'm sure it was. Sorry I don't wanna be rude but LOL

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1 minute ago, ArtPLAUSE said:

 First of all, changing everything about oneself is not artistic. It means you have no coherent theoretical design to back up your evolution. TFM to BTW transition was fairly radical, but she managed to do it keeping a common cultural background.

Secondly, you do not have to either wear meat everyday. You can be original without. This video is not. If you don't think so, good for you, but it's factually true (recycled scenes etc.)

the fame-monster transition wasnt smooth. gaga can do what she wants with her artistry, and if she doesn't "evolve theoritically" according to ur definition of what an artist should do with his/her career doesn't mean she doesnt have a reason for it. TF/M were eras with meanings that were relatively understable by everybody, but there comes ARTPOP and Joanne that had messy meanings, which doesn't mean gaga had meanings for them that she saw adequate as the next step of her career

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4 minutes ago, RainbowBlonde said:

Well you were the one who chose to focus on that freaking white backdrop though... The point about it was that it was reused from another project, but then you had to create some sort of artsy mambo jumbo out of it

yknow i tried to write something but i realized well never agree, so lets just enjoy we have gaga as our favorite singer, shall we? if she wasn't strong enought she would've given up in the MTN era but nevertheless here she is

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Just now, dannydevito said:

the fame-monster transition wasnt smooth. gaga can do what she wants with her artistry, and if she doesn't "evolve theoritically" according to ur definition of what an artist should do with his/her career doesn't mean she doesnt have a reason for it. TF/M were eras with meanings that were relatively understable by everybody, but there comes ARTPOP and Joanne that had messy meanings, which doesn't mean gaga had meanings for them that she saw adequate as the next step of her career

TF-M transition WAS smooth. It was radical but perfectly executed, and aesthetics were preserved. It was frankly her most coherent transition.

ARTPOP and Joanne don't really have a theme, but that is not the problem. The problem is that she is trying to push a significance into Joanne that simply does not belong to the album; moreover, it is often the complete opposite of whatever she had done since the beginning of her career.

I'm just gonna let you have the last reply because at this point we are not even discussing this lazy video anymore.

[warhol killah 8,672]

The fact that people been commenting on the video with words "flop" or "her career is cancelled" is immature. I, for one, dislike the video because like I said before it lacks creativity. I do get the message behind the video, but the way it was executed felt unfinished, imcluding the way the scenes were cut from one to another.

 

I honestly think, that the reason I feel like the video feels unfinished is because this is the middle of the story. Like, I have to watch the whole Joanne film and not just this one MR mv.

Overall, it is kind of growing on me. But when I first watched the video, I expected something NOT CRAZY like 2008 Gaga, but simple yet different like Joanne.

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Just now, ArtPLAUSE said:

TF-M transition WAS smooth. It was radical but perfectly executed, and aesthetics were preserved. It was frankly her most coherent transition.

ARTPOP and Joanne don't really have a theme, but that is not the problem. The problem is that she is trying to push a significance into Joanne that simply does not belong to the album; moreover, it is often the complete opposite of whatever she had done since the beginning of her career.

I'm just gonna let you have the last reply because at this point we are not even discussing this lazy video anymore.

i dont agree but we will never agree so lets just stop and be friends

Spoiler

tbh this moment is so moving