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Joanne: Success or Flop?


MaryJaneHolland

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The album as a whole is not a flop 

Its actually a decent success,. Not a massive phenomena but a success regardless. She's outselling some of this years older albums that had T10 hits so :hor: 

 

The singles, on the other hand... :oprah: 

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In Japan it's flop. Surprisingly much worse than C2C. C2C was No.7 without promo here, but Joanne was No.10 with tons of promo

 

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9 hours ago, pedrohemg said:

If someone calls Joanne a flop, is automatically calling Ariana's and Sia's album flop too.

yeah, but they are doing so much better at streaming :sweat:

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Success. Don't forget that Perfect Illusion is a top 15 single. No, it didn't achieve longevity, but it peaked higher than songs like MTN & G.U.Y. and MR, despite not peaking high or receiving airplay, is loved by mostly everyone who hears it. So, overall, combined with the steady sales rates, I'd deem the album a success. I mean, after all, it did go #1. (This is just proof that Gaga is an album artist over a singles artist.)

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Overall, I'd say that Joanne is a successful album. Objectively looking at this, considering it's Gaga, who, let's face it, hasn't had a mainstream song or album probably since Born This Way, and also considering that the sound of the album is so different, it's doing fantastic in my opinion.

Is it Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, success? No. But, honestly, I'm okay, and we should all be okay with that. We don't need to put her on this gigantic pedestal. Musically, and artistically, the album is phenomenal, and that's all we need. 

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15 hours ago, MaryJaneHolland said:

Be objective and consider all of the facts: how's it selling, how's it doing on the streaming platform etc etc. Is Joanne a success or a flop?

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success as an album release for a low - mid range artist; those you found on Youtube.

For an A list artist like Gaga, that's a flop. Consecutively without big hits for 2 era with 2 disappointing sales/charts/awards era, that's a flop for sure.  

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monketsharona

Neither a flop or a success...

The album is selling good, but it definitely lacks of hits songs to have long run (for the moment). Let's see if it has longevity ! 

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3 hours ago, MaryJaneHolland said:

yeah, but they are doing so much better at streaming :sweat:

and they have hits and big radio impact... 

Gaga has 'only' good album sales, no hits, no radio support, not a big streaming power, no viral videos. Of course all of this is for the moment, we'll see what happens next (especially after SB)

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RAMROD

I don't care, I enjoyed it.

Also, technically the album is a success cos she made it cinveying her emotions into words and songs, and she wanted to make old school kind of pop album, with organic melodies, not beats from computers, and she did it, she actually make songs that are relatable and easy to understand by people.

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Slovakialop

I don't really know.

ARTPOP sold in 1 week about 700.000 copies WW (including Japan's first week):staymad:

Joanne has sold 574.000 copies WW within 5 weeks.:awkney:

And better not talk about Born This Way's sales.:ladyhaha:

C2C did better in its first 5 weeks than Joanne in its first 5 weeks.:toofunny:

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