monsterdino 31,991 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Pity Party said: Bless her, forgetting to mention Joanne is still standing as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impostor 4,114 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 She is right! Madonna will always tell the truth. By the way she pronounced "controverSEAL". Is that correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ricky 9,014 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Just now, monsterdino said: Mmmmm Gaga is not on that position to say it tho. She didn't say anything bad about them and comparing her to them it's completely acceptable, no need for her to act as if she doesn't know it and act stupid. I don't get why she can't compare herself to them? Is it bc they're dead so that makes them more higher in the pedastole? No, it's more like don't mention the death in order to prove something that everyone already knows. It's very low and not respectful at all. Crossfit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas P 18,479 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 17 minutes ago, monsterdino said: She was brutal!!! And she needs to be, for people to wake up! But seeing the comments now they think that it's "cringy" and when Gaga was shouting @ Obama for the gays that was not "cringy"....... Honestly. There are some artists on this site that the members look for any reason to hate. It's so annoying. I’m a simple guy to please, if you like Melodrama, we chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdino 31,991 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, SEXODUS said: Ugh, you guys GP keeps on throwing shades and insults at her (because of her age, of how she dresses, of how she espresses herself), so I guess she's entitled to reply back and remind y'all that all these Britneys, Rihannas, Beyoncés and Taylor Swifts wouldn't be on top of the charts if she didn't bring her art into the world and made it a mainstream business. Still I don't think her recent music is worthy of her name but that's another story. I agree with everything that you said (even the last part about her music) and the fact that she is STILL fighting for the next generation amazes me even tho no one appreciates it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Palutena 3,146 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Eh, doesn't change my opinion of her or her music. E for effort tho. Adoremus in caelum, Palutena. Dea luminis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 109,911 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I don't like her recent works HC and so on, but before Gaga was here, she was here, and I used to listen to every single album and every single song of hers. You can trash her age, her look, her clothes, her attitude, anything, but you can't deny her impact on music, on fashion and on fighting for equality and change people's point of view on gays, age, sex and many other things. Without Madonna and Like A Prayer, a video like Judas would never be accepted! can you imagine how risky it was back then?! but she had the balls to do it! and look, now, when you make an "controversial" song and video on religion, the people that complains are really just a few.. the majority just don't care.. Give her her moment and the recognition that she's so deserves! You can hate her attitude but don't forget that there are bigger snakes out there with a shitty attitude that you love like Taylor Swift, Nicki and more but you still drink their music like water and still letting them to be famous and rich for nothing but bad things that they are doing. Come on and wrap that blade of grass around my hairy ass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NONONONO 709 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Here's more extracts from the speech: Madonna -- a global icon who extended her record as the highest-grossing female touring artist of all time in 2016 -- was honored as Woman of the Year at Billboard's Women In Music 2016 event on Friday (Dec. 9). And during her acceptance speech, she was fully ferocious, funny and brutally honest -- in other words, she was the Madonna we've known and adored since she debuted more than 30 years ago. Madonna, unsurprisingly, stole the show the moment she took the stage. Her weapon? Something you can't contain, fake, reproduce or put a price on: Blunt, personal truth. After opening with a joke -- "I always feel better with something hard between my legs" Madonna said, straddling the microphone stand -- she got candid very quickly. "I stand before you as a doormat. Oh, I mean, as a female entertainer," Madonna said. "Thank you for acknowledging my ability to continue my career for 34 years in the face of blatant sexism and misogyny and constant bullying and relentless abuse." Madonna's sprawling, revealing speech took us back to her life as a teenager when she first moved to New York. "People were dying of AIDS everywhere. It wasn’t safe to be gay, it wasn’t cool to be associated with the gay community," Madonna recalled. "It was 1979 and New York was a very scary place. In the first year I was held at gunpoint, raped on a rooftop with a knife digging into my throat and I had my apartment broken into and robbed so many times I stopped locking the door. In the years that followed, I lost almost every friend I had to AIDS or drugs or gunshots." From that, Madonna told the Women In Music crowd she learned a vital lesson: "In life there is no real safety except for self-belief." Madonna also talked about a lesson she thought she learned from David Bowie... only that lesson, it turned out, didn't quite apply to her. "I was of course inspired by Debbie Harry and Chrissie Hynde and Aretha Franklin, but my real muse was David Bowie. He embodied male and female spirit and that suited me just fine. He made me think there were no rules. But I was wrong. There are no rules -- if you're a boy. There are rules if you're a girl," Madonna said. Among those rules: "If you're a girl, you have to play the game. You're allowed to be pretty and cute and sexy. But don’t act too smart. Don’t have an opinion that's out of line with the status quo. You are allowed to be objectified by men and dress like a slut, but don’t own your sluttiness. And do not, I repeat do not, share your own sexual fantasies with the world. Be what men want you to be, but more importantly, be what women feel comfortable with you being around other men. And finally, do not age. Because to age is a sin. You will be criticized and vilified and definitely not played on the radio." Madonna also opened up about the time in her life when she felt "like the most hated person on the planet," with her eyes tearing up and her nose running a bit. "Eventually I was left alone because I married Sean Penn, and not only would he would bust a cap in your ass, but I was off the market. For a while I was not considered a threat. Years later, divorced and single -- sorry Sean -- I made my Erotica album and my Sex book was released. I remember being the headline of every newspaper and magazine. Everything I read about myself was damning. I was called a ***** and a witch. One headline compared me to Satan. I said, 'Wait a minute, isn't Prince running around with fishnets and high heels and lipstick with his butt hanging out?' Yes, he was. But he was a man. "This was the first time I truly understood women do not have the same freedom as men," she said. Madonna also recalled that at one point in her life, during all the public vitriol, "I remember wishing I had a female peer I could look to for support. Camille Paglia, the famous feminist writer, said I set women back by objectifying myself sexually. So I thought, 'oh, if you're a feminist, you don't have sexuality, you deny it.' So I said '**** it. I'm a different kind of feminist. I'm a bad feminist.'" Madonna also looked back on the many pop icons lost during the last decade. "I think the most controversial thing I have ever done is to stick around. Michael is gone. Tupac is gone. Prince is gone. Whitney is gone. Amy Winehouse is gone. David Bowie is gone. But I'm still standing. I'm one of the lucky ones and every day I count my blessings." Closing out her speech, Madonna offered thanks to her haters and advice to other women in music. "What I would like to say to all women here today is this: Women have been so oppressed for so long they believe what men have to say about them. They believe they have to back a man to get the job done. And there are some very good men worth backing, but not because they're men -- because they're worthy. As women, we have to start appreciating our own worth and each other's worth. Seek out strong women to befriend, to align yourself with, to learn from, to collaborate with, to be inspired by, to support, and enlightened by," she urged. "It's not so much about receiving this award as it is having this opportunity to stand before you and say thank you," Madonna said, closing out her speech. "Not only to the people who have loved and supported me along the way, you have no idea...you have no idea how much your support means," she said, tearing up for the second time. "But to the doubters and naysayers and everyone who gave me hell and said I could not, that I would not or I must not -- your resistance made me stronger, made me push harder, made me the fighter that I am today. It made me the woman that I am today. So thank you." Before the speech, Anderson Cooper introduced Madonna with a heartfelt tribute to her ongoing influence. "Madonna is Billboard's Woman of the Year, but as far as I'm concerned in terms of music and impact and culture, she's been the Woman of the Year every year since she released her first single 'Everybody' in 1982." Hailing her as not only "relevant but revolutionary" up to present day, Cooper noted the importance of Madonna to him "as a gay teenager growing up… Her music and outspokenness showed me as a teenager a way forward. Through her music, she told me and millions of teenagers -- gay and straight -- that we are not alone. We are connected to each other." http://www.billboard.com/articles/events/women-in-music/7616927/madonna-billboard-woman-of-the-year-labrinth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wayne 4,419 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Would Gaga fans dislike Madge if she didn't drag Gaga? Personally I don't like her and her music, she's reaching a bit to far sometimes which is cringey (ex. Bitch I'm Madonna), though I have an insane amount of respect for her work in the pop industry, especially for women Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdino 31,991 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, KleinKnight said: She is right! Madonna will always tell the truth. By the way she pronounced "controverSEAL". Is that correct? I was wondering about the same thing. The only "cringy" part is MAYBE that not the speech Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuuri 21,636 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Her tone of voice might make it sound different but just by reading it, it sounds like "Look at my career and now I'm going to list all those artists that I beat out longevity wise." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 32 minutes ago, JEWRJEWR said: "Michael is gone, Tupac is gone, Whitney is gone, Prince is gone, Amy Winehouse is gone, Bowie is gone...and I'm still standing." but all of it is. 31 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said: Ew her feeling of superiority is so cringey her attitude is one of the worst. This. Such an awful and insensitive thing to say tbh. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdino 31,991 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mr Ricky said: No, it's more like don't mention the death in order to prove something that everyone already knows. It's very low and not respectful at all. Well everybody knows that women are treated lower than men, but hey we still have to bring that up dont we Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdino 31,991 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Lady Palutena said: Eh, doesn't change my opinion of her or her music. E for effort tho. like you ever heared some of her 80s,90s or early 2000s .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdino 31,991 Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, River said: I don't like her recent works HC and so on, but before Gaga was here, she was here, and I used to listen to every single album and every single song of hers. You can trash her age, her look, her clothes, her attitude, anything, but you can't deny her impact on music, on fashion and on fighting for equality and change people's point of view on gays, age, sex and many other things. Without Madonna and Like A Prayer, a video like Judas would never be accepted! can you imagine how risky it was back then?! but she had the balls to do it! and look, now, when you make an "controversial" song and video on religion, the people that complains are really just a few.. the majority just don't care.. Give her her moment and the recognition that she's so deserves! You can hate her attitude but don't forget that there are bigger snakes out there with a shitty attitude that you love like Taylor Swift, Nicki and more but you still drink their music like water and still letting them to be famous and rich for nothing but bad things that they are doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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